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Guitar amps

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:17 am
by Hiran
I'm thinking of investing in a new amp, what would some of you reccommend I look into?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:45 am
by Ben
I have a Randall RH100 head and I fucking LOVE it. Best sounding cheap amp out there, sounds better than lots of more expensive amps IMO. I have it paired with the Marshall MG412 amp and I couldn't be happier.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:47 am
by Hiran
Ben wrote:I have a Randall RH100 head and I fucking LOVE it. Best sounding cheap amp out there, sounds better than lots of more expensive amps IMO. I have it paired with the Marshall MG412 amp and I couldn't be happier.
Thanks man, Do you reccommend a Randall Cab too? Does it matter?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:27 am
by XY-SATAN
WARNING !!! Don't be a dumbass like me and go out and decide too fast !

I fucked myself buying a cheap ass Behringer Vampire head and stack, great crunch but no power . Borrowing a Randall Cyclone, fucking ballzzz to the wall power just can’t seem to get the crunch and distortion ?? A good pedal board would improve it 300% . Line6 is fucking awesome and spider 212 ( ?) are fucking great, a few higher models come with a decent distortion/ vol./foot switch pedal .

5150 !!! Yessss ! .... maybe ?


Fuck man I'm still looking for fucks sakes ! , I'll let yea know ! :tup: :D

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:28 am
by hektik
I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:38 am
by Sheldon
Line 6, bah. I like more straight forward amp. If you looking for a great solid state amp; Marshall 8100 or VS100, the Randall line or Peavey. If you got the money for tube amps; Peavey 5150, Marshall JCM800, Engl line.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:41 am
by hektik
I think they're awesome. They held up for a show and they kicked all kinds of ass practicing. Nice distortion and a nice clean channel as well :tup:

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:09 am
by scorn
what kind of tones are you primarily going for? are you looking for a particular type of sound, or something that's adaptable to most ot all situations? what's your price range?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:42 am
by Hiran
scorn wrote:what kind of tones are you primarily going for? are you looking for a particular type of sound, or something that's adaptable to most ot all situations? what's your price range?
I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:31 pm
by A Fleeting Glimpse
Hiran wrote:I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.
Well with that price range, I recommend going with a:

Engl Powerball (used)
VHT Ultra Lead (used)
These two will get you the best tight metal sound.

Also,
Bogner Ubershall (used)
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV or III (used)

If solid state is more your cup o' tea, then get a Randall. You'll save a shit load of money (700 - 1000 range).

Don't forget that whatever amp you get, cabinet and speaker pairing is just as important. You could have an amazing amp but might not dig it if you've got it paired with a shitty cabinet, or with speakers that don't work well with the head.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:49 pm
by warhead dime
Ben wrote:I have a Randall RH100 head and I fucking LOVE it. Best sounding cheap amp out there, sounds better than lots of more expensive amps IMO. I have it paired with the Marshall MG412 amp and I couldn't be happier.
i still have my rh200 at home. its easily one of the best amps ive ever played and its really cheap for how awesome it is. i keep that one at home and my 5150 at band practice a lot of the time.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:14 pm
by Ben
Hiran wrote:
scorn wrote:what kind of tones are you primarily going for? are you looking for a particular type of sound, or something that's adaptable to most ot all situations? what's your price range?
I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.
oh fuck, if you're spending that much, get something else. the rh100 only costs around 300 or 350 :lol:

but I still love it and plan on keeping it for a long time.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:36 pm
by hippy
i think the only line6 your going to like is the vettaII. plenty of distortion, shit loads of effects, and you can save all your settings. whoever said the mesa mkIV :tup:

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:04 am
by Hiran
A Fleeting Glimpse wrote:
Hiran wrote:I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.
Well with that price range, I recommend going with a:

Engl Powerball (used)
VHT Ultra Lead (used)
These two will get you the best tight metal sound.

Also,
Bogner Ubershall (used)
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV or III (used)

If solid state is more your cup o' tea, then get a Randall. You'll save a shit load of money (700 - 1000 range).

Don't forget that whatever amp you get, cabinet and speaker pairing is just as important. You could have an amazing amp but might not dig it if you've got it paired with a shitty cabinet, or with speakers that don't work well with the head.
What kind of Cab's do you reccommend?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:05 am
by CFH Eternal
Hiran wrote:
A Fleeting Glimpse wrote:
Hiran wrote:I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.
Well with that price range, I recommend going with a:

Engl Powerball (used)
VHT Ultra Lead (used)
These two will get you the best tight metal sound.

Also,
Bogner Ubershall (used)
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV or III (used)

If solid state is more your cup o' tea, then get a Randall. You'll save a shit load of money (700 - 1000 range).

Don't forget that whatever amp you get, cabinet and speaker pairing is just as important. You could have an amazing amp but might not dig it if you've got it paired with a shitty cabinet, or with speakers that don't work well with the head.
What kind of Cab's do you reccommend?
Marshall 1960 cab is probably the most versatile you can get.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:31 am
by warhead dime
i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:39 pm
by Tweel
I play through a Peavey XXX w/its matching cab, it's fucking awesome, LOTS of balls and power, 120 watt tube so other people might not be able to keep up with you, it'll drown out most amps

warhead dime. cabs make somewhat of a difference, some just simple the way they are constructed to what type of wood is used to speakers that are used. i always liked heavier cabs, they always put out a badass low end.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:41 pm
by Wrona
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:18 pm
by Zivi
E N G L

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:45 pm
by hippy
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit :fu:

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:45 pm
by hippy
just buy any expensive tube amp you'll probably be happy

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:59 pm
by Wrona
hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit :fu:
get a tube amp and you will say "shawnwrona...you were right...digital sucks!"

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:16 pm
by XY-SATAN
warhead dime wrote:i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?
I always....yea right..... NOW ! Look at the cab as two different things, a amp ( head) working and the speaker capability in the cab ( stack ) . Some amps have effects and distortion programmed right in "FUCKING A" and if the amp doesn’t have that ? You need a kick ass pod or pedal to get the sound yea want . I'd buy them separate if you plan on playing any gigs or shit , kind of build on what you need and what you like !!

Ahh..... but whathafuk do I know.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:37 pm
by Hiran
Thanks for the feedback everyone, I apperciate it.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:38 pm
by hippy
TK wrote:
hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit :fu:
get a tube amp and you will say "shawnwrona...you were right...digital sucks!"
dude ive had more tube amps in my life then you ever will

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:06 am
by BeyondDriven
If you have the money...
Zivi wrote:E N G L

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:57 am
by hippy
BeyondDriven wrote:If you have the money...
Zivi wrote: D I E Z E L

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:10 pm
by Wrona
hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit :fu:
get a tube amp and you will say "shawnwrona...you were right...digital sucks!"
dude ive had more tube amps in my life then you ever will
damn,i hate modeling amps

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:12 am
by warhead dime
XY-SATAN wrote:
warhead dime wrote:i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?
I always....yea right..... NOW ! Look at the cab as two different things, a amp ( head) working and the speaker capability in the cab ( stack ) . Some amps have effects and distortion programmed right in "FUCKING A" and if the amp doesn’t have that ? You need a kick ass pod or pedal to get the sound yea want . I'd buy them separate if you plan on playing any gigs or shit , kind of build on what you need and what you like !!

Ahh..... but whathafuk do I know.
i wasnt asking about that, but ok

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:11 pm
by XY-SATAN
warhead dime wrote:
XY-SATAN wrote:
warhead dime wrote:i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?
I always....yea right..... NOW ! Look at the cab as two different things, a amp ( head) working and the speaker capability in the cab ( stack ) . Some amps have effects and distortion programmed right in "FUCKING A" and if the amp doesn’t have that ? You need a kick ass pod or pedal to get the sound yea want . I'd buy them separate if you plan on playing any gigs or shit , kind of build on what you need and what you like !!

Ahh..... but whathafuk do I know.
i wasnt asking about that, but ok


My bad , when I hear cab I think of a combo unit . Sorry about that . Of course people are looking for ballz to the wall sound from their cab and you're right it's the quality of speakers, cab design and durability .
Sorry again ,I’ll read the posts thoroughly in the future .

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:17 pm
by slo55
You might look into Marshalls avt line.
I got a avt275 and it's pretty damn awesome.
My anceint ass rg100 half stack kicks ass too.
The marshall has 4 channels and i just plug strait in and tweak with it a little and pretty much got a good "slayer" tone :tup:

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:28 pm
by axedawg
My amps include:

Engl Powerball - Full-on fucking metal!!

Carvin MTS3200 - Great bottom and warmth

Mesa Triaxis - It just rules...screaming lead tones and all the Boogie tones

Marshall JMP-1 - More crunch than just about any Marshall head

Rocktron Piranha - Some of the most heavy and vicious tones ever

Mesa 2:90 Poweramp - This thing gives my JMP-1 the sack it needs and with the deep and modern voicing you can also pull a new tone from it.

I don't think I could ever be satisfied with just one amp. All the aforementioned have their own unique character and voicing. I know one thing and that is never spend big bucks on the so-called 'boutique' amps ssuch as Bogner XTC Classic, Diezel Herber and VH4 and others. They are impossible to justify for the price. Anyone can sound good for a few hundred dollars or so.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:32 pm
by hektik
attach them all together

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:59 am
by axedawg
hektik wrote:attach them all together
I normally run either of the preamps and the Powerball in stereo and for lack of a better term the fucking sound is HUGE.

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:01 am
by warhead dime
XY-SATAN wrote:
warhead dime wrote:
XY-SATAN wrote:
warhead dime wrote:i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?
I always....yea right..... NOW ! Look at the cab as two different things, a amp ( head) working and the speaker capability in the cab ( stack ) . Some amps have effects and distortion programmed right in "FUCKING A" and if the amp doesn’t have that ? You need a kick ass pod or pedal to get the sound yea want . I'd buy them separate if you plan on playing any gigs or shit , kind of build on what you need and what you like !!

Ahh..... but whathafuk do I know.
i wasnt asking about that, but ok


My bad , when I hear cab I think of a combo unit . Sorry about that . Of course people are looking for ballz to the wall sound from their cab and you're right it's the quality of speakers, cab design and durability .
Sorry again ,I’ll read the posts thoroughly in the future .
hey man its no prob :lol:

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:53 pm
by DeathSion
hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit :fu:
I've had the amp for almost a year. I dislike it. I think it's an extremely over rated amp. It puts out a half assed distortion. It's got some cool effects, but if you really wanted to have those effects, just go buy an upper end pedal for it.

Tube amps :tup:
5150 or dual rect

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:55 pm
by warhead dime
ive never had the chance to play a mesa boogie dual rect. what can anyone tell me about it? is it overrated? does it have enough distortion or is it one of those amps you gotta do shit to?

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:57 pm
by Sam
CRATE BLUE VOODOO ALL THE WAY!!! Oh and my guitarist Derek's Marshall amp...that can wail!

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:59 pm
by warhead dime
ive got a peavey 5150 (1991 model) and it rules! amazingly warm, smooth and rich tone with awesome harmonic resonance and sustain.

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:42 am
by Balls On Parade
man, there's a slew of amps in your price range to fit your budget, just go play them, but recently in tube amps, i really like the Peavey XXX...but for solid state? Randall RH series (if you REALLY want to save some cash) or used Ampeg VH140c...older Marshall VS100's are pretty crushing amps, too...