Guitar amps

Hiran · Post by **Hiran** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:17 am

I'm thinking of investing in a new amp, what would some of you reccommend I look into?

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:45 am

I have a Randall RH100 head and I fucking LOVE it. Best sounding cheap amp out there, sounds better than lots of more expensive amps IMO. I have it paired with the Marshall MG412 amp and I couldn't be happier.

Hiran · Post by **Hiran** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:47 am

Ben wrote:I have a Randall RH100 head and I fucking LOVE it. Best sounding cheap amp out there, sounds better than lots of more expensive amps IMO. I have it paired with the Marshall MG412 amp and I couldn't be happier.

Thanks man, Do you reccommend a Randall Cab too? Does it matter?

XY-SATAN · Post by **XY-SATAN** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:27 am

WARNING !!! Don't be a dumbass like me and go out and decide too fast !

I fucked myself buying a cheap ass Behringer Vampire head and stack, great crunch but no power . Borrowing a Randall Cyclone, fucking ballzzz to the wall power just canâ€™t seem to get the crunch and distortion ?? A good pedal board would improve it 300% . Line6 is fucking awesome and spider 212 ( ?) are fucking great, a few higher models come with a decent distortion/ vol./foot switch pedal .

5150 !!! Yessss ! .... maybe ?

Fuck man I'm still looking for fucks sakes ! , I'll let yea know !

hektik · Post by **hektik** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:28 am

I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.

Sheldon · Post by **Sheldon** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:38 am

Line 6, bah. I like more straight forward amp. If you looking for a great solid state amp; Marshall 8100 or VS100, the Randall line or Peavey. If you got the money for tube amps; Peavey 5150, Marshall JCM800, Engl line.

hektik · Post by **hektik** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:41 am

I think they're awesome. They held up for a show and they kicked all kinds of ass practicing. Nice distortion and a nice clean channel as well

scorn · Post by **scorn** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:09 am

what kind of tones are you primarily going for? are you looking for a particular type of sound, or something that's adaptable to most ot all situations? what's your price range?

Hiran · Post by **Hiran** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:42 am

scorn wrote:what kind of tones are you primarily going for? are you looking for a particular type of sound, or something that's adaptable to most ot all situations? what's your price range?

I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.

A Fleeting Glimpse · Post by **A Fleeting Glimpse** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:31 pm

Hiran wrote:I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.

Well with that price range, I recommend going with a:

Engl Powerball (used)
VHT Ultra Lead (used)
These two will get you the best tight metal sound.

Also,
Bogner Ubershall (used)
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV or III (used)

If solid state is more your cup o' tea, then get a Randall. You'll save a shit load of money (700 - 1000 range).

Don't forget that whatever amp you get, cabinet and speaker pairing is just as important. You could have an amazing amp but might not dig it if you've got it paired with a shitty cabinet, or with speakers that don't work well with the head.

warhead dime · Post by **warhead dime** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:49 pm

Ben wrote:I have a Randall RH100 head and I fucking LOVE it. Best sounding cheap amp out there, sounds better than lots of more expensive amps IMO. I have it paired with the Marshall MG412 amp and I couldn't be happier.

i still have my rh200 at home. its easily one of the best amps ive ever played and its really cheap for how awesome it is. i keep that one at home and my 5150 at band practice a lot of the time.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:14 pm

Hiran wrote:
scorn wrote:what kind of tones are you primarily going for? are you looking for a particular type of sound, or something that's adaptable to most ot all situations? what's your price range?
I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.

oh fuck, if you're spending that much, get something else. the rh100 only costs around 300 or 350

but I still love it and plan on keeping it for a long time.

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:36 pm

i think the only line6 your going to like is the vettaII. plenty of distortion, shit loads of effects, and you can save all your settings. whoever said the mesa mkIV

Hiran · Post by **Hiran** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:04 am

A Fleeting Glimpse wrote:
Hiran wrote:I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.
Well with that price range, I recommend going with a:

Engl Powerball (used)
VHT Ultra Lead (used)
These two will get you the best tight metal sound.

Also,
Bogner Ubershall (used)
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV or III (used)

If solid state is more your cup o' tea, then get a Randall. You'll save a shit load of money (700 - 1000 range).

Don't forget that whatever amp you get, cabinet and speaker pairing is just as important. You could have an amazing amp but might not dig it if you've got it paired with a shitty cabinet, or with speakers that don't work well with the head.

What kind of Cab's do you reccommend?

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:05 am

Hiran wrote:
A Fleeting Glimpse wrote:
Hiran wrote:I'm going for a tone or sound thats similar to Dimebag's sound on Far Beyond or Slayer's guitar tone on Diabolous. Price range is from 1000 to 2500.
Well with that price range, I recommend going with a:

Engl Powerball (used)
VHT Ultra Lead (used)
These two will get you the best tight metal sound.

Also,
Bogner Ubershall (used)
Mesa/Boogie Mark IV or III (used)

If solid state is more your cup o' tea, then get a Randall. You'll save a shit load of money (700 - 1000 range).

Don't forget that whatever amp you get, cabinet and speaker pairing is just as important. You could have an amazing amp but might not dig it if you've got it paired with a shitty cabinet, or with speakers that don't work well with the head.
What kind of Cab's do you reccommend?

Marshall 1960 cab is probably the most versatile you can get.

warhead dime · Post by **warhead dime** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:31 am

i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?

Tweel · Post by **Tweel** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:39 pm

I play through a Peavey XXX w/its matching cab, it's fucking awesome, LOTS of balls and power, 120 watt tube so other people might not be able to keep up with you, it'll drown out most amps

warhead dime. cabs make somewhat of a difference, some just simple the way they are constructed to what type of wood is used to speakers that are used. i always liked heavier cabs, they always put out a badass low end.

Wrona · Post by **Wrona** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:41 pm

hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.

line 6=shit

Zivi · Post by **Zivi** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:18 pm

E N G L

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:45 pm

TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit

line6 vettaII is not shit

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:45 pm

just buy any expensive tube amp you'll probably be happy

Wrona · Post by **Wrona** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:59 pm

hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit

get a tube amp and you will say "shawnwrona...you were right...digital sucks!"

XY-SATAN · Post by **XY-SATAN** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:16 pm

warhead dime wrote:i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?

I always....yea right..... NOW ! Look at the cab as two different things, a amp ( head) working and the speaker capability in the cab ( stack ) . Some amps have effects and distortion programmed right in "FUCKING A" and if the amp doesnâ€™t have that ? You need a kick ass pod or pedal to get the sound yea want . I'd buy them separate if you plan on playing any gigs or shit , kind of build on what you need and what you like !!

Ahh..... but whathafuk do I know.

Hiran · Post by **Hiran** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:37 pm

Thanks for the feedback everyone, I apperciate it.

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:38 pm

TK wrote:
hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit
get a tube amp and you will say "shawnwrona...you were right...digital sucks!"

dude ive had more tube amps in my life then you ever will

BeyondDriven · Post by **BeyondDriven** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:06 am

If you have the money...

Zivi wrote:E N G L

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:57 am

BeyondDriven wrote:If you have the money...
Zivi wrote: D I E Z E L

Wrona · Post by **Wrona** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:10 pm

hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit
get a tube amp and you will say "shawnwrona...you were right...digital sucks!"
dude ive had more tube amps in my life then you ever will

damn,i hate modeling amps

warhead dime · Post by **warhead dime** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:12 am

XY-SATAN wrote:
warhead dime wrote:i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?
I always....yea right..... NOW ! Look at the cab as two different things, a amp ( head) working and the speaker capability in the cab ( stack ) . Some amps have effects and distortion programmed right in "FUCKING A" and if the amp doesnâ€™t have that ? You need a kick ass pod or pedal to get the sound yea want . I'd buy them separate if you plan on playing any gigs or shit , kind of build on what you need and what you like !!

Ahh..... but whathafuk do I know.

i wasnt asking about that, but ok

XY-SATAN · Post by **XY-SATAN** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:11 pm

warhead dime wrote:
XY-SATAN wrote:
warhead dime wrote:i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?
I always....yea right..... NOW ! Look at the cab as two different things, a amp ( head) working and the speaker capability in the cab ( stack ) . Some amps have effects and distortion programmed right in "FUCKING A" and if the amp doesnâ€™t have that ? You need a kick ass pod or pedal to get the sound yea want . I'd buy them separate if you plan on playing any gigs or shit , kind of build on what you need and what you like !!

Ahh..... but whathafuk do I know.
i wasnt asking about that, but ok

My bad , when I hear cab I think of a combo unit . Sorry about that . Of course people are looking for ballz to the wall sound from their cab and you're right it's the quality of speakers, cab design and durability .
Sorry again ,Iâ€™ll read the posts thoroughly in the future .

slo55 · Post by **slo55** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:17 pm

You might look into Marshalls avt line.
I got a avt275 and it's pretty damn awesome.
My anceint ass rg100 half stack kicks ass too.
The marshall has 4 channels and i just plug strait in and tweak with it a little and pretty much got a good "slayer" tone

axedawg · Post by **axedawg** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:28 pm

My amps include:

Engl Powerball - Full-on fucking metal!!

Carvin MTS3200 - Great bottom and warmth

Mesa Triaxis - It just rules...screaming lead tones and all the Boogie tones

Marshall JMP-1 - More crunch than just about any Marshall head

Rocktron Piranha - Some of the most heavy and vicious tones ever

Mesa 2:90 Poweramp - This thing gives my JMP-1 the sack it needs and with the deep and modern voicing you can also pull a new tone from it.

I don't think I could ever be satisfied with just one amp. All the aforementioned have their own unique character and voicing. I know one thing and that is never spend big bucks on the so-called 'boutique' amps ssuch as Bogner XTC Classic, Diezel Herber and VH4 and others. They are impossible to justify for the price. Anyone can sound good for a few hundred dollars or so.

hektik · Post by **hektik** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:32 pm

attach them all together

axedawg · Post by **axedawg** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:59 am

hektik wrote:attach them all together

I normally run either of the preamps and the Powerball in stereo and for lack of a better term the fucking sound is HUGE.

warhead dime · Post by **warhead dime** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:01 am

XY-SATAN wrote:
warhead dime wrote:
XY-SATAN wrote:
warhead dime wrote:i feel like an idiot for asking this, but i dont really get why cabs seem to be so important to some people. is it the quality of the speaker and the durability of the cabinets structure or what?
I always....yea right..... NOW ! Look at the cab as two different things, a amp ( head) working and the speaker capability in the cab ( stack ) . Some amps have effects and distortion programmed right in "FUCKING A" and if the amp doesnâ€™t have that ? You need a kick ass pod or pedal to get the sound yea want . I'd buy them separate if you plan on playing any gigs or shit , kind of build on what you need and what you like !!

Ahh..... but whathafuk do I know.
i wasnt asking about that, but ok

My bad , when I hear cab I think of a combo unit . Sorry about that . Of course people are looking for ballz to the wall sound from their cab and you're right it's the quality of speakers, cab design and durability .
Sorry again ,Iâ€™ll read the posts thoroughly in the future .

hey man its no prob

DeathSion · Post by **DeathSion** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:53 pm

hippy wrote:
TK wrote:
hektik wrote:I think line 6 makes good stuff. The guitarists I know all use them and they get a great tone using the amp distortion and all the amp effects.
line 6=shit
line6 vettaII is not shit

I've had the amp for almost a year. I dislike it. I think it's an extremely over rated amp. It puts out a half assed distortion. It's got some cool effects, but if you really wanted to have those effects, just go buy an upper end pedal for it.

Tube amps

5150 or dual rect

warhead dime · Post by **warhead dime** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:55 pm

ive never had the chance to play a mesa boogie dual rect. what can anyone tell me about it? is it overrated? does it have enough distortion or is it one of those amps you gotta do shit to?

Sam · Post by **Sam** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:57 pm

CRATE BLUE VOODOO ALL THE WAY!!! Oh and my guitarist Derek's Marshall amp...that can wail!

warhead dime · Post by **warhead dime** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:59 pm

ive got a peavey 5150 (1991 model) and it rules! amazingly warm, smooth and rich tone with awesome harmonic resonance and sustain.

Balls On Parade · Post by **Balls On Parade** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:42 am

man, there's a slew of amps in your price range to fit your budget, just go play them, but recently in tube amps, i really like the Peavey XXX...but for solid state? Randall RH series (if you REALLY want to save some cash) or used Ampeg VH140c...older Marshall VS100's are pretty crushing amps, too...