metal soloing

dantera · Post by **dantera** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:26 pm

ive been a blues guitarist my whole life and i want to start playing some more metal but i find myself doing blues soloing with distortion. how do i make it sound more metal.

dead forever · Post by **dead forever** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:52 pm

play it faster

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:19 pm

Mess around with you ionian, dorian, phrygian, lyidan, mixolydian, aeolian(minor), locrain and some others.

dantera · Post by **dantera** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:37 pm

yea, true. What scales does like Dime and the dude from shadow's fall use?

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:20 pm

find what you like, don't sound like other people.

M.I.A · Post by **M.I.A** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:17 pm

learn all your scales(all three forms), the modes, and get those fingers movin and you should be good.

Sam · Post by **Sam** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:06 am

Take lessons from a teacher into metal.

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:06 pm

dantera wrote:yea, true. What scales does like Dime and the dude from shadow's fall use?

Dime played whatever the fuck he wanted. He was influenced by a lot of blues stuff but he knew none of the modes. He just made up his own shit. A lot of the solos do sound dischordant when they're played slow. The guy from Shadows fall sucks and they are a faggot band. You can't go wrong with the minor scale. Use that. Now.

Dimejandro · Post by **Dimejandro** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:22 pm

i dont understand whaty you mean by making a solo sound more "metal". but what I can suggest is get to know your major and minor scales, and arpeggios, and fuck around with them in the key your playing in.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:14 pm

Use chromatics and "passing tones" (notes that are not in the scale you're soloing in).

Sheldon · Post by **Sheldon** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:43 pm

wal · Post by **wal** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:27 am

use your brain.

Pantera420 · Post by **Pantera420** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:18 am

DBS wrote:
dantera wrote:yea, true. What scales does like Dime and the dude from shadow's fall use?
The guy from Shadows fall sucks and they are a faggot band. You can't go wrong with the minor scale.

you're a fucking idiot.

anyways, if you're picking hand and technique aren't developed, then i suggest working on that(think tremelo and sweep picking)

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:31 pm

Pantera420 wrote:
DBS wrote:
dantera wrote:yea, true. What scales does like Dime and the dude from shadow's fall use?
The guy from Shadows fall sucks and they are a faggot band. You can't go wrong with the minor scale.
you're a fucking genius.

anyways, if you're picking hand and technique aren't developed, then i suggest working on that(think tremelo and sweep picking)

i agree

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:35 pm

The fact you like that faggot unoriginal band stops me from listenuing to anything you have to say. Your opinion is void.

Soloist · Post by **Soloist** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:26 pm

hippy wrote:Mess around with you ionian, dorian, phrygian, lyidan, mixolydian, aeolian(minor), locrain and some others.

you could have just said "mess around with modes" instead of trying to sound smart and type all that out

Metal soloing isn't always about speed. Learn the minor scale and harmonic minor scale, these 2 are the most common scales in metal. After you learn them, put on some songs or backing tracks and jam along..

Muffin · Post by **Muffin** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:27 pm

Sheldon wrote:

I was actually thinking about checking that book out....is it any good?

Soloist · Post by **Soloist** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:29 pm

Muffin wrote:
Sheldon wrote:
I was actually thinking about checking that book out....is it any good?

one of the best, if not, the best metal instruction book there is. Actually, in this guys case he should check out the other Stetina books, the heavy metal soloing ones (forgot what they were called). I used to have them and they give some creative ideas on how to solo in metal, good backing tracks too. If you're pretty advanced technique-wise, get vol. 2

M.I.A · Post by **M.I.A** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:54 pm

DBS wrote:
dantera wrote:yea, true. What scales does like Dime and the dude from shadow's fall use?
Dime played whatever the fuck he wanted. He was influenced by a lot of blues stuff but he knew none of the modes. He just made up his own shit. A lot of the solos do sound dischordant when they're played slow. The guy from Shadows fall sucks and they are a faggot band. You can't go wrong with the minor scale. Use that. Now.

there are 3 different types of minor scales though, a lot of soloist especially rock/metal and jazz soloist use harmonic minor. But all of them are good just to mix it up

Dimejandro · Post by **Dimejandro** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:54 am

M.I.A wrote:
DBS wrote:
dantera wrote:yea, true. What scales does like Dime and the dude from shadow's fall use?
Dime played whatever the fuck he wanted. He was influenced by a lot of blues stuff but he knew none of the modes. He just made up his own shit. A lot of the solos do sound dischordant when they're played slow. The guy from Shadows fall sucks and they are a faggot band. You can't go wrong with the minor scale. Use that. Now.
there are 3 different types of minor scales though, a lot of soloist especially rock/metal and jazz soloist use harmonic minor. But all of them are good just to mix it up

meh i'd say they use the harmonic as much as they do the natural and melodic.

Soloist · Post by **Soloist** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:20 pm

melodic minor is rarely used.. in any genre

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:22 pm

Soloist wrote:
hippy wrote:Mess around with you ionian, dorian, phrygian, lyidan, mixolydian, aeolian(minor), locrain and some others.
you could have just said "mess around with modes" instead of trying to sound smart and type all that out

Metal soloing isn't always about speed. Learn the minor scale and harmonic minor scale, these 2 are the most common scales in metal. After you learn them, put on some songs or backing tracks and jam along..

i prefer those modes actually. moron.

Soloist · Post by **Soloist** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:17 pm

hippy wrote:
Soloist wrote:
hippy wrote:Mess around with you ionian, dorian, phrygian, lyidan, mixolydian, aeolian(minor), locrain and some others.
you could have just said "mess around with modes" instead of trying to sound smart and type all that out

Metal soloing isn't always about speed. Learn the minor scale and harmonic minor scale, these 2 are the most common scales in metal. After you learn them, put on some songs or backing tracks and jam along..
i prefer those modes actually. moron.

those are the only modes. moron.

any other mode is a variation of those modes i.e dorian #2. moron.

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:19 pm

croninburg · Post by **croninburg** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:21 am

Go faster.