Thinking about taking guitar lessons again

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:14 am

Not so much because I suck but I feel I need to increase my theory knowledge a bit more. Yes, I could read a book or magazine about it, but I hope to learn some new tricks as well. Is it worth the time or is that up to my opinion?

tweek · Post by **tweek** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:21 am

it's up to you. if you want to have your own style of playing, teach yourself. if not, go get yourself a teacher.

axlash · Post by **axlash** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:43 am

tweek wrote: if you want to have your own style of playing, teach yourself. if not, go get yourself a teacher.

that's not true at all.

croninburg · Post by **croninburg** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:50 am

axlash wrote:
tweek wrote: if you want to have your own style of playing, teach yourself. if not, go get yourself a teacher.
that's not true at all.

You're right. Lessons can never be a bad thing, it's just the routine of it that I don't like. That, and having to spend money on it. I had lessons for about a year and I never practiced the exercises - the guy was in his 70s and a fucking incredible jazz player who was really in it for the music - he charged Â£5 an hour for a lesson for three people. He eventually got sick of us and left, but I really regret pissing him off now becasue in retrospect, he improved my playing so much. He knew such an unbelievable amount of theory.

Pfl?yd · Post by **Pfl?yd** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:53 am

Lessons can't hurt if you have the right teacher. But most teachers teach you to play like them, not like yourself.

I took a class in high school, learned how to play "Greensleeves" and went about it on my own. Now I'm past the point of having patience to deal with a teacher, not that there's much anyone could show me beyond improving technique.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:06 pm

I'd like to learn theory and shit just because I think it would be a cool knowledge to possess. Like Matt Deis (the former bassist of All that Remains, now with CKY) went to school for music and he can tell you anything you need to know about theory and shit. He's a phenomenal musician, which is why I don't understand why he just won't start his own band and write his own songs. From what I hear though, CKY is going to give him some creative control on the next album...something they've never done with their bassists in the past. Deis offers bass lessons in his spare time and I'm sure he'd be happy to teach me some things, but I'd rather just go to school and learn all he knows.

I've tried to teach myself guitar and bass but even after 6 years of off and on "learning" I'm still not where I want to be. I'm just not disciplined enough to teach myself, plus I learn better if someone is telling me how to do something rather than reading from a book or listening to a tape. I've tried the DVD instructional videos and shit too and those don't help much.

Pfl?yd · Post by **Pfl?yd** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:50 pm

I used to actually teach guitar and bass. The first thing I was adamant about was finding out what the student wanted to learn, like having him bring in some CDs of shit he was into. A student is going to embrace the learning process a lot better than if you try to force them into learning what you want them to. They sure learn a hell of a lot faster too. I played in a band with one of them after teaching them for about a year.

Not only that, but I was also forced to deal with music i may not have been familiar with, so it was a learning experience for me too.

Other than the mechanical aspects and the theory though, I don't think lessons are all that important in the "rock" context. It's just a good springboard.

die die my darling · Post by **die die my darling** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:41 am

man my band has two guitarists and when we were at school one of them(Tom) had guitar lessons the guy who didnt (Ashley) is by far the superior player yet tom had been playing longer it shows that the knowledge you can obtain from time alone is better than having it fed to you

7Dime7MetalMassacre · Post by **7Dime7MetalMassacre** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:55 pm

die die my darling wrote:man my band has two guitarists and when we were at school one of them(Tom) had guitar lessons the guy who didnt (Ashley) is by far the superior player yet tom had been playing longer it shows that the knowledge you can obtain from time alone is better than having it fed to you

This post makes no fucking sence

Jeweller · Post by **Jeweller** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:39 pm

PflÃ¶yd wrote:I used to actually teach guitar and bass. The first thing I was adamant about was finding out what the student wanted to learn, like having him bring in some CDs of shit he was into. A student is going to embrace the learning process a lot better than if you try to force them into learning what you want them to. They sure learn a hell of a lot faster too. I played in a band with one of them after teaching them for about a year.

I just started taking guitar lessons about 5 weeks ago. The main thing I was looking for when I was searching for an instructor was the style of music they liked. I was lucky enough to find a guy that's into the same stuff as me. He started off teaching me some theory and mechanics. Lately, he's started incorporating the stuff I've learned with songs I'm in to. It's helping alot.

Wrona · Post by **Wrona** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:12 pm

die die my darling wrote:man my band has two guitarists and when we were at school one of them(Tom) had guitar lessons the guy who didnt (Ashley) is by far the superior player yet tom had been playing longer it shows that the knowledge you can obtain from time alone is better than having it fed to you

Go back to school and take an english class.

axlash · Post by **axlash** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:55 pm

TK wrote:
die die my darling wrote:man my band has two guitarists and when we were at school one of them(Tom) had guitar lessons the guy who didnt (Ashley) is by far the superior player yet tom had been playing longer it shows that the knowledge you can obtain from time alone is better than having it fed to you
Go back to school and take an english class.

wrona'd.