Panterachat

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:55 pm**

i am new here, so this has probably been asked before, but what tuning is Mouth For War in? (on guitar) The tabs ive seen say standard, but i think its Eb, cause in regular it just doesnt sound right...im not sure....any definate answers?

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:08 pm**

I thought it was in drop D? Dime also used to tune down 1/4 steps for some reason, probably to piss people off in the future.

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:10 pm**

croninburg wrote: Dime also used to tune down 1/4 steps for some reason, probably to piss people off in the future.

thanks dude, 1st reply i got

woo!

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:08 pm**

D standard

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:10 pm**

E flat.

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:27 pm**

I think it's dropped D.

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:53 pm**

long4theblur wrote:I think it's dropped D.

No
D standard or Eb

Posted: **Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:21 am**

dead forever wrote:E flat.

Posted: **Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:45 pm**

its halfway between E and Eb. like every other song on that album except walk and a new level, which are halfway between D and Db. dime only used dropped D on primal concrete sledge.

CFH - all halfway between E and Eb except primal concrete sledge which is dropped D (tuned a 1/4 flat)

VDOP - all halfway between E and Eb except a new level and walk which are halfway between D and Db

FBD - all halfway between E and Eb except becoming, 5 minutes alone, im broken and use my third arm which are halfway between D and Db

TGSTK - all halfway between D and Db, except the underground in america and sandblasted skin which are GGCFAD (tuned 1/4 flat)

RTS - all halfway between D and Db, except i'll cast a shadow (and possibly it makes them disappear, not sure) which is dropped C (tuned 1/4 flat)

Posted: **Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:00 pm**

By the way to get alot of those tunings exactly your going to need a pretty decent rackmount tuner, or a very keen ear and patience.

Posted: **Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:46 pm**

mouth for war is in standard.

tgstk and rts are in c# (1 and a half step) apart from a few occasional songs which are in the drop.

farbeyond driven is in d# (half step) apart from planet caravan.

Posted: **Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:44 pm**

anty wrote:mouth for war is in standard.

tgstk and rts are in c# (1 and a half step) apart from a few occasional songs which are in the drop.

farbeyond driven is in d# (half step) apart from planet caravan.

Chris already posted all the correct tunings.

Posted: **Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:12 pm**

Instead of putting yir tunner on 440 could you just put it on 430 and tune to what you want to make 1/4 flat?

just another noob question for a noob

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:01 am**

dont be lazy and play it in standard

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:17 am**

slay wrote:dont be lazy and play it in standard

playing it in standard would be the lazy way, retard.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:27 am**

Chris wrote:
slay wrote:dont be lazy and play it in standard

playing it in standard would be the lazy way, retard.

no, drop D would be the easy way

retard

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:38 am**

what the fuck are you talking about? playing it in drop D would just mean having to transpose it to that tuning, making more work for you.

playing it in the tuning it is supposed to be in would be the easy way.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:28 am**

mouth for war in drop D is EASIER

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:51 am**

Wrong. Fat fuck.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:09 pm**

english fucks

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:51 pm**

slay wrote:english fucks

Are you retarded? I mean really?

Its in E flat, or close to it, so setting the low string to d would mean you would not only have to make weird ass fingerings for the chords, but youd have to move it further up the neck and memorise it that way to learn it.

Posted: **Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:10 pm**

Other than It being slightly off, its standard.
Trying turning your Marshall louder than your music when learning it.
Otherwise , what does it matter at band practise any way.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:15 pm**

Chris wrote:VDOP - all halfway between E and Eb except a new level and walk which are halfway between D and Db

I play Walk down 1 and a 3/4s of a step. which is C# on low E. it sounds right to me...

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:29 pm**

abyssspecter wrote:
Chris wrote:VDOP - all halfway between E and Eb except a new level and walk which are halfway between D and Db
I play Walk down 1 and a 3/4s of a step. which is C# on low E. it sounds right to me...

Its still wrong. Your ear sucks.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:12 pm**

abyssspecter wrote:
Chris wrote:VDOP - all halfway between E and Eb except a new level and walk which are halfway between D and Db
I play Walk down 1 and a 3/4s of a step. which is C# on low E. it sounds right to me...

What the fuck. Stop making it more complicated than it really is, shithead.
D standard. Whole step down from E standard

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:23 pm**

Aeon wrote:
abyssspecter wrote:
Chris wrote:VDOP - all halfway between E and Eb except a new level and walk which are halfway between D and Db
I play Walk down 1 and a 3/4s of a step. which is C# on low E. it sounds right to me...
What the fuck. Stop making it more complicated than it really is, shithead.
D standard. Whole step down from E standard

Any interview where Dime talks about his tuning shows that he never played in normal tunings. He always re-calibrated his tuners. If a song was in "D standard", it was actually a 1/4 of a step lower than that.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:25 pm**

warhead dime wrote:
Aeon wrote:
abyssspecter wrote:
Chris wrote:VDOP - all halfway between E and Eb except a new level and walk which are halfway between D and Db
I play Walk down 1 and a 3/4s of a step. which is C# on low E. it sounds right to me...
What the fuck. Stop making it more complicated than it really is, shithead.
D standard. Whole step down from E standard
Any interview where Dime talks about his tuning shows that he never played in normal tunings. He always re-calibrated his tuners. If a song was in "D standard", it was actually a 1/4 of a step lower than that.

Yeah sure. Or you can just tune to D standard.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:32 pm**

Aeon wrote:
warhead dime wrote:
Aeon wrote:
abyssspecter wrote:
Chris wrote:VDOP - all halfway between E and Eb except a new level and walk which are halfway between D and Db
I play Walk down 1 and a 3/4s of a step. which is C# on low E. it sounds right to me...
What the fuck. Stop making it more complicated than it really is, shithead.
D standard. Whole step down from E standard
Any interview where Dime talks about his tuning shows that he never played in normal tunings. He always re-calibrated his tuners. If a song was in "D standard", it was actually a 1/4 of a step lower than that.
Yeah sure. Or you can just tune to D standard.

Obviously. But if anyone wanted to tune to Dime, then that answer is for them.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:36 pm**

The real reason the tuning sounds fucked is because it was done in standard E-flat tuning. What the sound engineer did to fuck everyone up is speed the song up 1% or what ever.

This give you the illusion of it being tuned 1/2 a semitone higher (then everyones favorite E-flat) when recorded.

I use a program called Transcribe. It is a small proggie that allows you to change the pitch or the speed of a song to any percentage high or low by 99% either way.

So you tune your guitar to 440 and open transcribe which is basically a music player that allows you to adjust the pitch til the song is playing with you in the right key. Then you can slow down or speed up the song,but the pitch wont change. So me being a lazy Fuck I keep my guitar tuned to 440 when learning tunes and speed up E-flat tuning so I dont have to tune down

Amazing little tool - I use it to figure out songs and solos I have no tab for.
It also lets you click on a spot in a song and right lick and it loops that area, pause and reloop or whatever.

The program and key gen zipped is only 1,078kb If any know where I can dump a copy to an ftp site or I could email it to someone who also has a website to share it with everbody.

Let me Know!

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:44 pm**

That's not what they did.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:47 pm**

Bronco wrote:The real reason the tuning sounds fucked is because it was done in standard E-flat tuning. What the sound engineer did to fuck everyone up is speed the song up 1% or what ever.

This give you the illusion of it being tuned 1/2 a semitone higher (then everyones favorite E-flat) when recorded.

I use a program called Transcribe. It is a small proggie that allows you to change the pitch or the speed of a song to any percentage high or low by 99% either way.

So you tune your guitar to 440 and open transcribe which is basically a music player that allows you to adjust the pitch til the song is playing with you in the right key. Then you can slow down or speed up the song,but the pitch wont change. So me being a lazy Fuck I keep my guitar tuned to 440 when learning tunes and speed up E-flat tuning so I dont have to tune down

Amazing little tool - I use it to figure out songs and solos I have no tab for.
It also lets you click on a spot in a song and right lick and it loops that area, pause and reloop or whatever.

The program and key gen zipped is only 1,078kb If any know where I can dump a copy to an ftp site or I could email it to someone who also has a website to share it with everbody.

Let me Know!

D standard.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:49 pm**

Maybe not, but the song is in the key of "E" no matter what pitch it
it was recorded at.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:50 pm**

all his tunings are 1/4 step off. i wish i knew why

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:59 pm**

Has anybody played Shattered live yet?

Last weekend we tried it for the first time (and nailed it), as the 1st encore tune.

Blew thier fuckin minds! At least the diehards that recognised it.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:10 pm**

Fantomas wrote:all his tunings are 1/4 step off. i wish i knew why

Read some of the posts in this thread, dumbass.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:16 pm**

Yeah, sorry to add lib on this thread.
Just getting bored of the whole tuning thing.

Won't happen again.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:18 pm**

Bronco wrote:Yeah, sorry to add lib on this thread.
Just getting bored of the whole tuning thing.

Won't happen again.

Dont worry about it, jackass.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:18 pm**

i play it half a step down, the harmonics sound better

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:22 pm**

ALRIGHT

is it 1/4 higher then standard (EADGBE)

or is it 1/4 below D??

we need a final answer man. common i love to play this song just as much.

Posted: **Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:25 pm**

Listen you jackass. Tune DGCFAD.

Panterachat

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