Guitar Cabinets

whitemike · Post by **whitemike** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:54 am

I am wanting to improve from my bog-standard Marshall 4x12. So I am flogging it. I've been looking through various sites and such and there are some interesting cabs.
Mesa Boogie interests me, as does Engl. Hmmm, pricey but worth it?

What I am after is just some opinions... what do you use / why do you use it (over preferance to others) and what makes it better etc.

So just want yer opinions on cabinets - Like what to avoid, what to look for.

Cheers

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:55 pm

I use Electric amp, which is the American version of Matamp (the company I believe is based in Huddersfield) which also is a shootoff of Orange. I am one of those believers that the thicker the cabinet, the heavy the tone.
Anyway check out the matamp cabs.
http://www.matamp.co.uk/cabs412.htm

whitemike · Post by **whitemike** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:46 pm

Right looking at getting this 2x12, mainly as a 4x12 is annoying for travelling with and ye got most power through the PA anyway... ish. But yeh, it's an Engl and I've heard they are pretty reliable and awesome. Plus they have V30s in them... which i have heard are great. But not tried them, noone near me stocks Engl.

Any opinions AT ALL!?

http://www.thomann.de/gb/engl_e212vh_gitarrenbox.htm

5axisOfEvil · Post by **5axisOfEvil** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:03 pm

I dig Avatar cabs.
http://www.avatarspeakers.com/

UNGODLIKE · Post by **UNGODLIKE** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:44 pm

i hate, and i mean, i can't stand anything having to do w/crate amps

washburnML · Post by **washburnML** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:04 pm

UNGODLIKE wrote:i hate, and i mean, i can't stand anything having to do w/crate amps

Bronco · Post by **Bronco** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:06 pm

3 or 400 watt 4 x 12 Marshall's have never failed me

Wrona · Post by **Wrona** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:20 am

Bronco wrote:3 or 400 watt 4 x 12 Marshall's have never failed me

What the fuck are you running thru... the amp off of back to the future?

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:58 pm

I use the Behringer 412S, with Jensens in it, and think it sounds phenomenal, especially for the price. I actually like the way my Peavey XXX sounds through it more than through the 1960A I played it through. Depends on the sounds you're going for, though.

soulburn · Post by **soulburn** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:56 pm

I'll be looking for a new cab soon. I know most Mesa owner's go with Mesa cabs, but I haven't heard anything good about the Oversized Cabs (they get muddy at high volumes...sounds way too scooped...etc). I've played through one once, but that was through the PA, and while it sounded good, I wanted to hear it by itself.

Anyways, I'm thinkin about getting the 2x12 Mesa Cab. I used to play a solidstate Trace Elliot thru 2 15'inch EV speakers... and it sounded killer. Anyone out there use EV's?

Hero-Of-The-Day · Post by **Hero-Of-The-Day** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:19 am

washburnML wrote:
UNGODLIKE wrote:i hate, and i mean, i can't stand anything having to do w/crate amps

Yeah Crate ams suck big time

Marshall,Randall Rule

Hero-Of-The-Day · Post by **Hero-Of-The-Day** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:19 am

washburnML wrote:
UNGODLIKE wrote:i hate, and i mean, i can't stand anything having to do w/crate amps

Yeah Crate ams suck big time

Marshall,Randall Rule

Hero-Of-The-Day · Post by **Hero-Of-The-Day** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:21 am

Marshall Randall Mesa Boogie and Rivera Rule!!!!!!

washburnML · Post by **washburnML** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:31 pm

Hero-Of-The-Day wrote:Marshall Randall Mesa Boogie and Rivera Rule!!!!!!

cant forget line 6 and randall

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:46 pm

You two shut up.

Anyway, thicker, and more importantly a sturdier cabinet is going to give you a better and thicker tone.
Less cab resonance/flexing = less tone and volume wasted due to energy being consumed/canceled by the flexing of a cabinet with weak structural integrity.
Get a good set of speakers in a fucking SOLID as shit cab, and you'll be more than pleased.
This principle is applicable to all audio reproduction endeavors.

washburnML · Post by **washburnML** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:09 pm

Kellan wrote:Anyway, thicker, and more importantly a sturdier cabinet is going to give you a better and thicker tone.
Less cab resonance/flexing = less tone and volume wasted due to energy being consumed/canceled by the flexing of a cabinet with weak structural integrity.
Get a good set of speakers in a fucking SOLID as shit cab, and you'll be more than pleased.
This principle is applicable to all audio reproduction endeavors.

sounds good

washburnML · Post by **washburnML** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:11 pm

Kellan wrote:You two shut up

Never!

washburnML · Post by **washburnML** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:12 pm

Nevermore is cool, kellan

CliffandJason-BASS · Post by **CliffandJason-BASS** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:23 am

washburn, stop trying to act like this hardass your not

washburnML · Post by **washburnML** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:41 am

CliffandJason-BASS wrote:washburn, stop trying to act like this hardass your not

because a called you captain obvious you are trying to make me look stupid but you are just embarrasing yourself so STFU

Pfl?yd · Post by **Pfl?yd** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:41 am

One of my cabs is a homemade deal with aluminum car audio speakers in it.

washburnML · Post by **washburnML** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:54 am

CliffandJason-BASS wrote:washburn, stop trying to act like this hardass your not

you quit trying to look like a hardass by trying to put me in my place

Pfl?yd · Post by **Pfl?yd** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:06 am

This forum lately has been like two retards fighting over a dead caterpillar. Shut up.

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:53 pm

PflÃ¶yd wrote:One of my cabs is a homemade deal with aluminum car audio speakers in it.

Honestly, if you get good tone out of it; then that's all that matters.

whitemike · Post by **whitemike** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:56 pm

Kellan wrote:You two shut up.

Anyway, thicker, and more importantly a sturdier cabinet is going to give you a better and thicker tone.
Less cab resonance/flexing = less tone and volume wasted due to energy being consumed/canceled by the flexing of a cabinet with weak structural integrity.
Get a good set of speakers in a fucking SOLID as shit cab, and you'll be more than pleased.
This principle is applicable to all audio reproduction endeavors.

Cheers for the advice, I'll def. keep it in mind.

Jefferino · Post by **Jefferino** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:03 am

5axisOfEvil wrote:I dig Avatar cabs.
http://www.avatarspeakers.com/

Avatar's look like they were just pulled from a 1970s flea market.

5axisOfEvil · Post by **5axisOfEvil** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:34 pm

Jefferino wrote:
5axisOfEvil wrote:I dig Avatar cabs.
http://www.avatarspeakers.com/
Avatar's look like they were just pulled from a 1970s flea market.

They sound awesome.. looks dont mean alot.
The 2X12 custom I have with the silver fender front looks great!
Its a monster with my HotRod Deville.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Fri May 11, 2007 1:52 am

Also, Vader cabs rule. Good for chunky, heavy tones.

LionsDen · Post by **LionsDen** » Thu May 17, 2007 12:36 pm

I dont think you can lose with Boogie cabs. Bogner makes good cabs too I hear.

soulburn wrote:I'll be looking for a new cab soon. I know most Mesa owner's go with Mesa cabs, but I haven't heard anything good about the Oversized Cabs (they get muddy at high volumes...sounds way too scooped...etc). I've played through one once, but that was through the PA, and while it sounded good, I wanted to hear it by itself.

Anyways, I'm thinkin about getting the 2x12 Mesa Cab. I used to play a solidstate Trace Elliot thru 2 15'inch EV speakers... and it sounded killer. Anyone out there use EV's?

Here's some clips of a Krank through a few cabs.

Small Mesa cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... EA24BDB519

Krank cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 600240E3D7

Oversized Mesa cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 350C969F2F

Lando Griffin · Post by **Lando Griffin** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:59 pm

What do you guys thing of this cab?: http://longisland.craigslist.org/msg/316668871.html

I have a peavey valveking head (100 watts) and I'm looking for something kind of versatile. I don't know too much about cabinets/speakers and all that stuff.

whitemike · Post by **whitemike** » Wed May 23, 2007 7:04 pm

LionsDen wrote:I dont think you can lose with Boogie cabs. Bogner makes good cabs too I hear.

soulburn wrote:I'll be looking for a new cab soon. I know most Mesa owner's go with Mesa cabs, but I haven't heard anything good about the Oversized Cabs (they get muddy at high volumes...sounds way too scooped...etc). I've played through one once, but that was through the PA, and while it sounded good, I wanted to hear it by itself.

Anyways, I'm thinkin about getting the 2x12 Mesa Cab. I used to play a solidstate Trace Elliot thru 2 15'inch EV speakers... and it sounded killer. Anyone out there use EV's?
Here's some clips of a Krank through a few cabs.

Small Mesa cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... EA24BDB519

Krank cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 600240E3D7

Oversized Mesa cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 350C969F2F

That's a really good comparison. Cheers for that.

Is that you who recorded those? If so, how did you record them (What did ye use etc)

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:37 pm

i'm purchasing a new half stack soon. any recommendations? (spending between Â£500-Â£800 which i think is about $1000-$1500)

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:10 am

Mesa cabs = overrated

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:14 am

DBS wrote:i'm purchasing a new half stack soon. any recommendations? (spending between Â£500-Â£800 which i think is about $1000-$1500)

What kind of style do you play?

DeathSion · Post by **DeathSion** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:25 pm

Ben wrote:Mesa cabs = overrated

everything can be overated..especially when not set up correctly.

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:25 pm

Ben wrote:
DBS wrote:i'm purchasing a new half stack soon. any recommendations? (spending between Â£500-Â£800 which i think is about $1000-$1500)
What kind of style do you play?

in practice its all styles. but performance-wise i only play metal and so i'd like an amp which pumps out as much high quality gain as possible.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Mon May 28, 2007 1:03 pm

DeathSion wrote:
Ben wrote:Mesa cabs = overrated
everything can be overated..especially when not set up correctly.

True, but everyone thinks Mesas are the best amps/cabs/etc ever made, which is just not true.

Lando Griffin · Post by **Lando Griffin** » Mon May 28, 2007 5:32 pm

Lando Griffin wrote:What do you guys thing of this cab?: http://longisland.craigslist.org/msg/316668871.html

I have a peavey valveking head (100 watts) and I'm looking for something kind of versatile. I don't know too much about cabinets/speakers and all that stuff.

Penny for your thoughts!!!...or something

satan · Post by **satan** » Mon May 28, 2007 8:09 pm

o yeah

satan · Post by **satan** » Mon May 28, 2007 8:10 pm

for real how do i change this cream puff thing