Debating on whether or not to get a new guitar

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:59 pm

Looking at a Schecter C-7 Blackjack.
I'm definitely interested in a 7 string for the extended scale and such.
Anyway, from all the reviews I've read, it seems to be a wonderful guitar. The only "complaint" I can find people repeatedly mentioning is the thickness of the neck being a little much (though I'd imagine that comes with the territory of any 7-string).
I'm pretty much sold on this thing, but do you guys have any comparable suggestions with this axe?

DeathSion · Post by **DeathSion** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:13 pm

Well, if you don't have little baby hands...you won't have to worry about it. Schecter is the way to go though.

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:17 pm

Yeah my hands are definitely big enough.
I find my frets on my jackson to be far to crowded for me.
Now it's just a debate on whether or not I want the Hellraiser or the Blackjack.
Are they designed exactly the same, minus the pickups?

DeathSion · Post by **DeathSion** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:39 pm

I have the same problem with my jackson. I was thinking about getting the hellraiser.

Dimejandro · Post by **Dimejandro** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:42 pm

ibanez also has some affordable, quality 7 strings

Three Second Doom · Post by **Three Second Doom** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:20 pm

My friend has a C-7 Blackjack, and he loves it. I've never played one but I've heard nothing but good things about them. He recently got a Hellraiser too, and it's pretty much all hes been playing on for a while.

Me, I ended up getting the Damien 7 since I was on a tighter budget, but still a very nice guitar. Schecter.

Dimejandro · Post by **Dimejandro** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:34 pm

I was going to post this in the other thread, but i didnt quite remember.. aaanyway, i think scott hull of pig destroyer uses a blackjack.. if i remember correctly. or a diamond series.

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:06 am

I'm leaning towards the blackjack because of the two different woods.
From what I can gather, it's better to have a neck and body that are of different wood types, because their resonance won't be at the same frequency, and there will be no cancelation.
Having the same wood for the neck and the body I think probably induces sound wave resonance cancellation because the woods are of the same density and resonate at the same frequency.
I read on Ed Roman's site in one of his articles that you want different woods for neck and body, but I don't recall him saying exactly why.
I'm speculating as to what I just mentioned as the reason, by just thinking about some other physics in sound that I'm aware of.
You don't want completely square enclosures with sub-bass because when the sound-waves reflect off the rear wall, they're at the same exact wavelength as when they came from the adjacent wall (where the speaker produced the wave), and thus you get soundwave cancellation.

I would imagine that's probably why Schecter opted to use actives in the Hellraiser. Both the neck and body are mahogany. Not as much of a concern with resonance cancellation if you have active pickups with huge sensitivity.
From other reviews on the Hellraiser I've read, apparently it's tone can get a tad bit fuzzy or muddy, and this is indicative of cancellation.
I could be wrong, but I prefer passive pickups anyway.
I'll probably go with the Blackjack.

BassPhemy · Post by **BassPhemy** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:22 am

Hmm. Is that really true about the different woods in the neck and body? I've been a neck-through whore for a long time.

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:25 am

BassPhemy wrote:Hmm. Is that really true about the different woods in the neck and body? I've been a neck-through whore for a long time.

I dont' remember exactly where I read it, but go check out the articles he's written.
It's pretty interesting stuff.
According to him, the best neck designs go in following order:
Deep set-neck tenon > Neck-thru > bolt in > bolt on > set neck (ala gibson)

I could've sworn I read that (the different neck wood thing) in his deep set neck tenon article but I couldn't find it just now

anyway, check out his stuff.
a lot of good reading and some beautiful guitars

www.edromanguitars.com

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:27 am

Another reference to cancellation he mentions, is the inefficiency of 22 fret guitars because of the neck pickup placement being directly under the would-be 24th fret harmonic, thus causing some cancellation.
That's in the 22 vs 24 fret article.

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:34 am

Hmm. Both of these Schecters are set neck.

I wonder how far in they're set.

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:16 pm

Fuck it. Bought the Blackjack.

Aeon · Post by **Aeon** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:58 pm

Dimejandro wrote:I was going to post this in the other thread, but i didnt quite remember.. aaanyway, i think scott hull of pig destroyer uses a blackjack.. if i remember correctly. or a diamond series.

The guitar with the natural finish? That's a Jackson.

croninburg · Post by **croninburg** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:19 am

Kellan wrote:Fuck it. Bought the Blackjack.

Bring on the pictures then...

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:53 pm

croninburg wrote:
Kellan wrote:Fuck it. Bought the Blackjack.
Bring on the pictures then...

I'll post some tomorrow.
Gotta clean her up and I've been at work all day so I'm tired.
Plays nice though.