Unsung heros, great guitarists that don't get recognized.

PABassPlayer · Post by **PABassPlayer** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:59 am

The fact that Steve Stevens played with Billy Idol, alot of people never got to see what he's capable of.

List other "hidden treasures" that you know of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8sX_Llt ... ted&search

SuicideNote · Post by **SuicideNote** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:40 am

I saw Queensryche last night. Geoff Tate is just amazing. He delivered 2.5 hours of clean heavy metal vocals. I've never heard live vocals from a metal band done as well as at the show last night. I don't even like Queensryche that much, but damn.

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:48 am

john mayer surprised me.

soulburn · Post by **soulburn** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:58 am

mayer is pretty badass (as far as pop stars go)...his jams with double trouble are awesome. totally held is own with buddy guy

unsung...

1. robert fripp (king crimson)
2. martin barre (jethro tull)
3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.

SuicideNote · Post by **SuicideNote** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:02 am

Roy Z

PABassPlayer · Post by **PABassPlayer** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:05 am

soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.

Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.

dead forever · Post by **dead forever** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:33 am

Shaun Baxter.

Gimp · Post by **Gimp** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:40 am

PABassPlayer wrote:
soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.
Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.

what albums would you recommend?

PABassPlayer · Post by **PABassPlayer** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:17 pm

Gimp wrote:
PABassPlayer wrote:
soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.
Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.
what albums would you recommend?

the two I have are: "I" and "The True Human Design"

I like them, but I have heard other people say they have better.
anyone?

mo0sE · Post by **mo0sE** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:18 pm

PABassPlayer wrote:
soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.
Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.

Fredricks side project is also pretty badass

soulburn · Post by **soulburn** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:45 pm

Destroy Erase Improve would be the best recommendation to see if you dig Meshuggah. It has the best of they're old and new sound. Most of the new Meshuggah is a little far out for most. They album came out in like...'95. They were doing the whole 7string thing, but Korn took the attention.

Dimejandro · Post by **Dimejandro** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:49 pm

dei fucking crushes. probably my favorite meshuggah album. Fredrik thordendals special defects is amazing though, i suggest you check em out. Morgan Agren plays drums on it, and does a really impressive job, haake does voices on the album haha.

soulburn · Post by **soulburn** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:06 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U5YEqmIIdj8

thats fredrick and morgan tearin it up

BassPhemy · Post by **BassPhemy** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:11 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw1oLOcKaxA

PABassPlayer · Post by **PABassPlayer** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:13 pm

soulburn wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=U5YEqmIIdj8

thats fredrick and morgan tearin it up

awesome

if anyone ever says they don't understand what syncopation is, show them this video.

silverback77 · Post by **silverback77** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:35 pm

I'm gonna have to say that Woody & Pepper from COC might fit in this category. I think COC's such an underrated band, and I rarely find people who are familiar w/ any of their work besides "Clean My Wounds" and "Vote w/ a Bullet". Their albums go so much deeper, and their live shows really kick ass.

There's also (well, used to be) the fucking AWESOME band from Maine called Donnybrook (not the morons from LA who play knuckle-dragging, shaved-ape hardcore). They were...hard to describe. Imagine Tears For Fears got into a trainwreck w/ Faith No More and Tool performed the reconstructive surgery w/ Led Zepplin as the nurse. I'd love to point you to some of their stuff online, but you can't find it anywhere. If you want, PM me and I'll email you an mp3 or two.

warhead dime · Post by **warhead dime** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:03 pm

Meshuggah are awesome, and the next album that you might want to get after digesting Destroy Erase Improve from them would be Chaosphere.

Fredrik Thordendahl has a rediculously huge influence from jazz-fusion guitarist Allan Holdsworth. Check him out too if you haven't.

soulburn · Post by **soulburn** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:56 pm

if you don't dig Chaosphere, try Contradictions Collapse and None (2 albums sold together). You can definitely tell the transition of Meshuggah, from "swedish metallica with 7strings" to they're more modern sound....

the first track from None starts off with that crazy dial-up sound to pure brutality. check it out...both albums are awesome, though the vox on CC aren't as evolved.

Pfl?yd · Post by **Pfl?yd** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:09 pm

Steve Albini.

axlash · Post by **axlash** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:18 pm

soulburn wrote:

unsung...

1. robert fripp (king crimson)

unsung?

vinniesfollower · Post by **vinniesfollower** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:37 pm

Willie Muha

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:44 pm

Mick Ronson

ssh · Post by **ssh** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:51 pm

i just got stoned and jammed out for awhile and it was so i good i should have made a cd

Dimejandro · Post by **Dimejandro** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:45 am

Daniel gildenlow isn't exactly a "hidden treasure" but goddamn, he's got the best pipes i've ever heard. Also an incredible musician.

axlash · Post by **axlash** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:43 am

ssh wrote:i just got stoned and jammed out for awhile and it was so i good i should have made a cd

did you play a sitar?

The Fear · Post by **The Fear** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:53 am

PABassPlayer wrote:
Gimp wrote:
PABassPlayer wrote:
soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.
Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.
what albums would you recommend?
the two I have are: "I" and "The True Human Design"

I like them, but I have heard other people say they have better.
anyone?

The riff halfway through "I" is so brutal.

Spoke In The Fuckin wheel · Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:17 am

CFH Eternal wrote:Mick Ronson

Ziggy era Bowie with some great Mick Ronson soaring leads, that dude had glam rock star, guitar idol, all figured out. I have yet to check out his solo shit, but i must.

Maelstrom · Post by **Maelstrom** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:24 am

I liked the Bozzio/Levin/Stevens album, all of them are fucking great musicians

Pfl?yd · Post by **Pfl?yd** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:07 am

axlash wrote:
ssh wrote:i just got stoned and jammed out for awhile and it was so i good i should have made a cd
did you play a sitar?

You don't have to have brown skin to enjoy playing the sitar.

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:53 am

Spoke In The Fuckin wheel wrote:
CFH Eternal wrote:Mick Ronson
Ziggy era Bowie with some great Mick Ronson soaring leads, that dude had glam rock star, guitar idol, all figured out. I have yet to check out his solo shit, but i must.

His solo work is pretty cool stuff. A lot of people don't realize that Randy Rhoads modelled his look and his LP after Mick Ronson.

Bassgod · Post by **Bassgod** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:11 pm

Piggy D'Amour from Voivod

Brandon · Post by **Brandon** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:35 pm

carcass

BaptizedBurning · Post by **BaptizedBurning** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:29 pm

gus g

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:17 pm

John Christ from Danzig

tweek · Post by **tweek** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:14 am

Vicente Amigo.

dead forever · Post by **dead forever** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:36 am

Marty Friedman should really get some recognition outside of metal also. Not many people can play like him, not just in technical ability but in note choice. Also his vibrato > everyone else.

croninburg · Post by **croninburg** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:12 am

Three Second Doom · Post by **Three Second Doom** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:18 pm

Dimejandro wrote:Daniel gildenlow isn't exactly a "hidden treasure" but goddamn, he's got the best pipes i've ever heard. Also an incredible musician.

Gildenlow

wal · Post by **wal** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:06 pm

kirk hammett
kurt cobain

tweek · Post by **tweek** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:59 pm

tweek wrote:Vicente Amigo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLS-pXwAc4o&NR

i'm starting to get into this style of music. it rules. if anyone disagrees, they can suck a dick.