Pantera VH1 Behind the Music response

rawzilla · Post by **rawzilla** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:15 pm

The first 20 minutes was true glory for me. They tried to bury Phil most of the 2nd half of the show. Only my opinion but there are truly 2 sides to this and this program will make things worse between the 2 sides.

heavymetalsoldier666 · Thu May 11, 2006 11:17 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if shit hits the fan when Down starts playing Britain and Europe where the fans angry from seeing the vh1 special and reading the articles started throwing bottles, cans, bags of piss and shit at phil because there so many loyal people on this planet to the Abbott Brothers .

edgecrusheraza · Post by **edgecrusheraza** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:20 pm

So I was right that they turned it into a flame fest?
I didnt get to see it.

BLAK2TH · Post by **BLAK2TH** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:21 pm

that shit was rough. they really didnt have to show the footage from the club. i know you dont see much, but the audio and video of the shit wasnt necessary. they focused too much on phils problems, and dimes old lady aint half bad for a chubby girl

summers_eve · Post by **summers_eve** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:22 pm

heavymetalsoldier666 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if shit hits the fan when Down starts playing Britain and Europe where the fans angry from seeing the vh1 special and reading the articles started throwing bottles, cans, bags of piss and shit at phil because there so many loyal people on this planet to the Abbott Brothers .

youre full of shit for that.

PD · Post by PD » Thu May 11, 2006 11:23 pm

They let both sides speak, so I don't think it was one-sided or biased as I'm sure the rest of these assclowns will think.

panteragirl · Post by **panteragirl** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:24 pm

I just wish that Vinnie & Phil could make up.

rawzilla · Post by **rawzilla** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:25 pm

edgecrusheraza wrote:So I was right that they turned it into a flame fest?
I didnt get to see it.

Watch it at midnight bud. I think Rex said it best when he stated it was a bunch of "he-said, she said B.S." This will be way overblown now. I can say I feel for both sides here. I think Vinnie should just bury the hatchet. A lot of anger is being unjustly vented at Phil in my opinion.

rawzilla · Post by **rawzilla** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:26 pm

PD wrote:They let both sides speak, so I don't think it was one-sided or biased as I'm sure the rest of these assclowns will think.

Yeah both sides spoke but every commercial break was started after "before the lead singer self destructed and killed the band" and shit like that.

J3FF · Post by **J3FF** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:28 pm

yea, they really ripped the shit outa phil the 2nd half of it... but over all i thought it was an alright show. He kinda had it commin, after how he treated the band when he left.

heavymetalsoldier666 · Thu May 11, 2006 11:31 pm

summers_eve wrote:
heavymetalsoldier666 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if shit hits the fan when Down starts playing Britain and Europe where the fans angry from seeing the vh1 special and reading the articles started throwing bottles, cans, bags of piss and shit at phil because there so many loyal people on this planet to the Abbott Brothers .
youre full of shit for that.

well there are people that are like that!

ed32780 · Post by **ed32780** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:38 pm

well i got to say even with dime gone. if all hatchets were buried. between everyone wich i dunno if that will ever hapen id like to see pantera reunite and do a tour. just not sure who would be best for the spot left absent by dime. ive came to the conclusion its all messed up what happened. but hey id still like to see em play again. maybe its just me but id buy a ticket.

PD · Post by PD » Thu May 11, 2006 11:40 pm

rawzilla wrote: and killed the band" and shit like that.

I don't think the show ever implied that. I think what we saw was Vince's point of view on the matter, and Phil's. And Phil sure didn't help his case out by being drugged up or drunk for the interview.

What I'm seeing on this board are people who flat out do not believe a word Vince, Rita and the other members of the Pantera crew are saying about Phil. They will defend Phil no matter what. It's been so clear after RTS came out that Phil was more interested in his side projects than actually getting back together with the band. Notice how Phil never made a mention about putting out another album. He just said he never received any phone calls. Whether that be true or not, look at where we stand today. No studio album since RTS. You can't say that the Abbott's didn't want to put out another one. Phil just kept on rambling about his god-like complex on stage and off. Too many people kiss his ass.

heavymetalsoldier666 · Thu May 11, 2006 11:41 pm

ed32780 wrote:well i got to say even with dime gone. if all hatchets were buried. between everyone wich i dunno if that will ever hapen id like to see pantera reunite and do a tour. just not sure who would be best for the spot left absent by dime. ive came to the conclusion its all messed up what happened. but hey id still like to see em play again. maybe its just me but id buy a ticket.

I don't see it happening.

War_Nerve116 · Post by **War_Nerve116** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:44 pm

I think Rex, vince, and phil need to sit down and just fuckin talk, make up, and be friends again. They cant let the past ruin the future! The i say they should get bak together with zakk wylde playin guitar and do a DIMEBAG rememberence tour!

ed32780 · Post by **ed32780** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:45 pm

yea i know like a snowballs chance in hell. but theres always wishful thinking.

HoustonKJ · Post by **HoustonKJ** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:45 pm

heavymetalsoldier666 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if shit hits the fan when Down starts playing Britain and Europe where the fans angry from seeing the vh1 special and reading the articles started throwing bottles, cans, bags of piss and shit at phil because there so many loyal people on this planet to the Abbott Brothers .

There's no way that's going to happen. Anybody who goes to a Down show is obviously supportive toward Phil. And you really think even if some people got a wild hair up their ass like that the rest of the crowd would let that happen? Come on, man.

heavymetalsoldier666 · Thu May 11, 2006 11:47 pm

HoustonKJ wrote:
heavymetalsoldier666 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if shit hits the fan when Down starts playing Britain and Europe where the fans angry from seeing the vh1 special and reading the articles started throwing bottles, cans, bags of piss and shit at phil because there so many loyal people on this planet to the Abbott Brothers .
There's no way that's going to happen. Anybody who goes to a Down show is obviously supportive toward Phil. And you really think even if some people got a wild hair up their ass like that the rest of the crowd would let that happen? Come on, man.

i maybe wrong on that also. there are also 4 separate members performing on that stage as well along with phil and many people are fans of that other band also and many people will probably act on their best behavior for the sake of those other members.

rawzilla · Post by **rawzilla** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:48 pm

PD wrote:
rawzilla wrote: and killed the band" and shit like that.
I don't think the show ever implied that. I think what we saw was Vince's point of view on the matter, and Phil's. And Phil sure didn't help his case out by being drugged up or drunk for the interview.

What I'm seeing on this board are people who flat out do not believe a word Vince, Rita and the other members of the Pantera crew are saying about Phil. They will defend Phil no matter what. It's been so clear after RTS came out that Phil was more interested in his side projects than actually getting back together with the band. Notice how Phil never made a mention about putting out another album. He just said he never received any phone calls. Whether that be true or not, look at where we stand today. No studio album since RTS. You can't say that the Abbott's didn't want to put out another one. Phil just kept on rambling about his god-like complex on stage and off. Too many people kiss his ass.

Not true here. When you have a traumatic loss you're looking for someone to point the finger and Phil is that guy. Both sides have fault here in my opinion.

I said this in another thread but....

Let's just all throw in Vulgar Video and pretend it's 1992.

burnfromwithin · Post by **burnfromwithin** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:56 pm

I've never posted here before, because I haven't had much to say about Pantera since Dime's death, but watching that tonight, I wanted to search out a place where people were talking about the show everyone saw tonight.

I wanted to throw my goddamn beer bottle at the screen when Phil was talking towards the end. I don't remember a damn thing that fucker was saying, but it pissed me off something fierce.

Overall, I'd say it was a very emotional, well-put together show. I wish they would've had some interview footage of Dime from when he was alive or something tho. It just ain't the same without him being on there.

yankee1 · Post by **yankee1** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:26 am

i just wanted to say that i think enough damage has been done..the surviving members should put the past behind for dimebags sake.now is when they truly need each other.the past is gone. why not get together and create for dimebag.at least bring out a positive from this tradgedy.right now everyone loses .the band the family, and the fans.Dimebag could never be replace d,but someone like Zakk Wylde who loved Dimes music and understands the beauty of this style of music could help fill that void.and Dime could still live on in what he loved and originally created.Otherwise we all suffer even more. I think Dimebag would want to see everyone happy together.forgive phil

jimswamp · Post by **jimswamp** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:30 am

War_Nerve116 wrote:I think Rex, vince, and phil need to sit down and just fuckin talk, make up, and be friends again. They cant let the past ruin the future! The i say they should get bak together with zakk wylde playin guitar and do a DIMEBAG rememberence tour!

I AGREE I SAID THAT BEFORE TOO ABOUT HAVING ZAKK WYLDE PLAY SOME TYPE OF SHOW WITH THE REMAINING MEMBERS. LETS START AN ONLINE PETITION.

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jimswamp · Post by **jimswamp** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:30 am

War_Nerve116 wrote:I think Rex, vince, and phil need to sit down and just fuckin talk, make up, and be friends again. They cant let the past ruin the future! The i say they should get bak together with zakk wylde playin guitar and do a DIMEBAG rememberence tour!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:31 am

anyone who signs that petition is an idiot. Phil and Zakk will NEVER collaborate. Ever. Phil and Vince ever speaking is almost as unlikely. idiots.

Bren · Post by **Bren** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:34 am

It seems kinda sad that an opportunity to showcase the band we love on a major TV show is overshadowed by finger-pointing.

p u k e · Post by **p u k e** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:36 am

Nobody got shit on in the show. They did what they could with an hour and in my opinion they did a great job. The show was very upsetting, it was like a reality kick to the face, Pantera is really over. I cant believe it ended like that. I still cant believe Dime was taken like that.

rawzilla · Post by **rawzilla** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:40 am

I was expecting the worst actually. Still, I'd say almost half of the show focused on the downfall of Phil (drug use, alienation etc.) and the tragedy. I would have liked to have seen a bit more of the Vulgar and FBD days.
I don't see fences being mended and I see a definite Phil camp and Abbot camp for a long time unfortunately.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:42 am

rawzilla wrote:I don't see fences being mended and I see a definite Phil camp and Abbot camp for a long time unfortunately.

eh, those labels are unnecessary. Phil camp = non-idiots.

Bren · Post by **Bren** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:47 am

PhilCore wrote:Phil camp = non-idiots.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:50 am

Bren wrote:
PhilCore wrote:Phil camp = non-idiots.

ok the fanatics on either end of the spectrum are stupid; blindly loyal phil worshippers aren't any much better than the phil haters. BUT, in this specific argument about the animosity between Vin and Phil after Dime's death; the people defending Phil's right to be at the funeral tend to be the more rational, less likely to bluster out a bunch of retarded, reactionary, hyperemotional "fuck phil man, he has no place being there if rita doesn't want him there, he's the devil, SDMF for lyphe!!". ya dig?

Bren · Post by **Bren** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:00 am

Let's just settle this by all agreeing that Zakk Wylde is a faggot.

BLAK2TH · Post by **BLAK2TH** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:08 am

agreed

Johnnie5666 · Post by **Johnnie5666** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:12 am

My heart goes out to the Abbot Family,It was difficult seeing the footage,but what really was troubling was the "Smacked Out" condition Phill was in for the shows interview.He looked higher than a Georgia Pie In The Sky! It would be a big mistake for Pantera to reform,you cannot replace a Giant of a Musician and a man like Dimebag,and you certainly cannot salvage a broken band with a disingenious junky like Phil.
And yeah,that blond was hot for a chubby metal chick!God Bless her!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:13 am

Johnnie5666 wrote:My heart goes out to the Abbot Family,It was difficult seeing the footage,but what really was troubling was the "Smacked Out" condition Phill was in for the shows interview.He looked higher than a Georgia Pie In The Sky! It would be a big mistake for Pantera to reform,you cannot replace a Giant of a Musician and a man like Dimebag,and you certainly cannot salvage a broken band with a disingenious junky like Phil.
And yeah,that blond was hot for a chubby metal chick!God Bless her!

after eating shit you may have death for dessert.

metalboy18 · Post by **metalboy18** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:16 am

its true that you mother fuckers are loyal to the music of the band Pantera. no doubt that the vh1 special sparked some emotion about the band but godamnit its not phils fault that darrel got shot. godamnit, you can't fix it when its too late and with a heavy heart i say that Phil Anselmo is one of the best damn metal singers ever to grace gods green earth and darrel will never ever be matched at guitar playing theres no doubt about that but the whole fuckin world cant just say fuck you to the mother fucker that made this band what it was is or ever will be again god bless Dime and his brother Vinnie. Phil needs to put the ciggeratte out and lite up a joint like old times when times were good.I know and you know and every motherfucker on this planet knows that we cant change what happened and it breaks my heart but godamnit, perservere. I love yall and all of the music and partyin dont change a godamn thing. Metal never dies. were still hangin on. and by the way i saw Damage Plan at the livestock here in florida and im done fuck it all. my band broke up right after the shooting and now im a lone wolf like phil. i could never know the pain and hurt that you guys and girls are goin threw. so light up some weed in memory of Darrel....dont be ashamed of what you are and keep it real to the music.

metalboy18 · Post by **metalboy18** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:21 am

why is zakk quoteing Metallica? some son of a bitches need to have a little more respect for dimes girl i think your one of the hottest metal chicks out there.amen to that nough said

ed32780 · Post by **ed32780** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:30 am

yea, wtf ive got my memories saw pantera live 3 times 2 in georgia and once in florida. ya cant really point a finger at anyone. bands get together they break up simple fact. people are gonna want to do side projects. down was cool. but broke my heart to hear the crap he made with "stupidjoint ritual" i may get flamed for this but sorry. panteras shit was always better and i beleive it always woulda been. well that being said god bless dime's family. and all of the pantera fans. pantera may be gone but never forgotten and plus we still got the music.

Wrona · Post by **Wrona** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:31 am

heavymetalsoldier666 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if shit hits the fan when Down starts playing Britain and Europe where the fans angry from seeing the vh1 special and reading the articles started throwing bottles, cans, bags of piss and shit at phil because there so many loyal people on this planet to the Abbott Brothers .

As far as i look at it, Phil with Pantera and Phil with Down are 2 different things.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:35 am

TK wrote:
heavymetalsoldier666 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if shit hits the fan when Down starts playing Britain and Europe where the fans angry from seeing the vh1 special and reading the articles started throwing bottles, cans, bags of piss and shit at phil because there so many loyal people on this planet to the Abbott Brothers .
As far as i look at it, Phil with Pantera and Phil with Down are 2 different things.

you're like some kind of super genius.

ed32780 · Post by **ed32780** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:58 am

lmao is this a pantera thread or an asshole thread? wtf im hearin alot of talk about assholes and not much else?

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