Is it true that bassists hate guitarists that switch to bass
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Is it true that bassists hate guitarists that switch to bass
I always hear this, and does it bother any of the bassists here?
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I hate guitarists that switch to bass because they usually bring the guitarist attitude of "mememememememe" with them and sound like a pile of shit on the bass. If you want to be a spotlight person onstage, stay with guitar. Other than mechanical similarities, bass and guitar are completely different.
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what he said.Pflöyd wrote:I hate guitarists that switch to bass because they usually bring the guitarist attitude of "mememememememe" with them and sound like a pile of shit on the bass. If you want to be a spotlight person onstage, stay with guitar. Other than mechanical similarities, bass and guitar are completely different.
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we dont ALL have that attitude....do we?Pflöyd wrote:I hate guitarists that switch to bass because they usually bring the guitarist attitude of "mememememememe" with them and sound like a pile of shit on the bass. If you want to be a spotlight person onstage, stay with guitar. Other than mechanical similarities, bass and guitar are completely different.
ive filled in for a few guys before, i love playing bass. i just have dumped so much cash and time into learning guitar, theres no way id switch now.
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I play guitar quite well, but I'm not into it as a performance instrument.Pantera420 wrote:i hate bass players that switch to guitar
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
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Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.
They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)
They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)
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And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
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Pflöyd wrote:they usually bring the guitarist attitude of "mememememememe" with them
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how can you play like that?PABassPlayer wrote:Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.
They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)
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I can't really show you on our original stuff, but a good example is the bridge in Godsmack - Bad Religion. Not saying it's a great song, but it's where I got the feel and idea for some of my original stuff.wal wrote:how can you play like that?PABassPlayer wrote:Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.
They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
I've done things of the sort where I would play a clave-style line and then keep moving the "one" back another beat while the drums kept the same time. It's not easy to keep up, but it's pretty fun to do in a jam context. Keeps everyone on their toes.wal wrote:how can you play like that?PABassPlayer wrote:Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.
They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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you know exactly what I'm talking about.Pflöyd wrote:I've done things of the sort where I would play a clave-style line and then keep moving the "one" back another beat while the drums kept the same time. It's not easy to keep up, but it's pretty fun to do in a jam context. Keeps everyone on their toes.wal wrote:how can you play like that?PABassPlayer wrote:Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.
They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
well, say you play 4/4 and your drummer plays 5/4 at 100bpm , you have 4 pulse when he has 5.. how can you make it work at the 2nd bar when you hit 1 and hes still on '5'?PABassPlayer wrote:I can't really show you on our original stuff, but a good example is the bridge in Godsmack - Bad Religion. Not saying it's a great song, but it's where I got the feel and idea for some of my original stuff.wal wrote:how can you play like that?PABassPlayer wrote:Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.
They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)
the only thing that i know is called rhythmic displacement when you move your rhythm pattern (1) back/forward another beat like floyd said.
Yeah, that's pretty much the only way it works. It's kind of circular. I do it in sparse parts though so it's almost subtle and gives the guitarist plenty of room to do things over it.wal wrote:well, say you play 4/4 and your drummer plays 5/4 at 100bpm , you have 4 pulse when he has 5.. how can you make it work at the 2nd bar when you hit 1 and hes still on '5'?PABassPlayer wrote:I can't really show you on our original stuff, but a good example is the bridge in Godsmack - Bad Religion. Not saying it's a great song, but it's where I got the feel and idea for some of my original stuff.wal wrote:how can you play like that?PABassPlayer wrote:Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.
They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)
the only thing that i know is called rhythmic displacement when you move your rhythm pattern (1) back/forward another beat like floyd said.
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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You hear it used in jazz quite abit, but you can apply it anywhere. It's not something that you write an entire song with, but more so a bridge or if your doing a tempo change mid song it makes a cool conversion. Like I said, the mechanics of doing it is easier said than the feel of it. Like Pfloyd said, definatly keep everyone on there toes, and you have to have a good gel with your drummer for him to keep steady time and not deviate until you both come back to 1.
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And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
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And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
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would they meet up every sixth bar?
and thats the kinda shit don von vliet used to get his band to do. all play in different time signatures, but have all the parts carefully constructed so as to all come back in on one note and then diverge again, only to come together again, and again.
and thats the kinda shit don von vliet used to get his band to do. all play in different time signatures, but have all the parts carefully constructed so as to all come back in on one note and then diverge again, only to come together again, and again.
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Thats true, assuming there is 6 bars to the riff. Sometimes coming out of that time signature is harder than going into it. Although I'm not a huge fan, Meshuggah are masters at it. Any band that can have 3 and 4 time signatures going at once and still come back to one spot are incredible.ATR v1.2 wrote:would they meet up every sixth bar?
and thats the kinda shit don von vliet used to get his band to do. all play in different time signatures, but have all the parts carefully constructed so as to all come back in on one note and then diverge again, only to come together again, and again.
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]