What's Phil's take on the Power Metal era really?

walnut · Post by **walnut** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:12 am

Okay, this is a serious question that I've been wondering for a while now. I know Phil's been embarrassed about the old days since he changed his image for the first time. Hes always claimed that Cowboys was Pantera's first "real" album. But anyone remember that website that was up a while back (think it got taken down after Dime's death) called Panterrible? It had a story posted up about Phil kicking some fan's ass who was hanging out with the band backstage, after he pulled out a copy of Power Metal and asked him to sign it.

Can anyone verify this story, or perhaps go into further detail? It just doesn't seem to add up. I mean, sure, I can understand him being embarrassed about his image back then or whatever, but if you watch some old clips you'll notice he was still more or less the same Phil putting on a deep voice and dropping the F bomb every second word. There were a couple of gay songs but most of them were straight up metal, and they were even better live. Some of them could even pass for Cowboys era Pantera. I don't understand what the big conspiracy is all about.

Anyone heard anything about this before, or know of any similar instances?

walnut · Post by **walnut** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:16 am

Okay, found the story:

http://web.archive.org/web/200304272352 ... /index.htm

"And then there's this incident. The Panterrible ones are on tour for Cowboys, and after a gig a fan goes backstage to talk to the band. They talk, and all is cool with the world. Then, this fan, asks Phil, "Hey, would you autograph my album?" and pulls out acopy of Power Metal.

A smart person would laugh and make a joke. A mature person would at least be calm. But no, not these guys. Phil's ego got so wounded that he reacted the only way his little pea-brain would let him - he attacked the fan and tried to kick his ass. Some cool guys, huh?"

Bren · Post by **Bren** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:14 am

Bullshit story, I've personally seen him sign a copy of it, and I've seen Rex laughing about Metal Magic and Projects in the Jungle. The idiots behind the Panterrible site have a massive chip on their shoulder about something.

Edna Bodine · Post by **Edna Bodine** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:58 am

That has to be untrue. Weren't they still playing a couple of Power Metal tunes when they toured supporting "Cowboys From Hell" anyway?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:03 am

Bren wrote:Bullshit story, I've personally seen him sign a copy of it, and I've seen Rex laughing about Metal Magic and Projects in the Jungle. The idiots behind the Panterrible site have a massive chip on their shoulder about something.

i'd never seen that before.

There is a cover-up in the music industry, one as big as, if not bigger than, the governmental cover-up of aliens, the Roswell incident, etc.

This dude's clearly doesn't work in PR.

dan · Post by **dan** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:20 pm

phil always claimed that Vulgar was their first real album.

p u k e · Post by **p u k e** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:22 pm

Edna Bodine wrote:That has to be untrue. Weren't they still playing a couple of Power Metal tunes when they toured supporting "Cowboys From Hell" anyway?

Yes they were. And to the thread starter, Phil never said or acted like he
was embarassed, he might be embarassed as all people are as far as something they did when they were younger, but hes still proud.
Only person that would be emabarassed, or at least act it would have been Vinnie cause Pantera was more bout money to him so hes gotta play the
new Vinnie Paul role. PowerMetal wasnt glam anyways.

Roz · Post by **Roz** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:24 pm

dan wrote:phil always claimed that Vulgar was their first real album.

and i agree with him.

Spoke · Post by **Spoke** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:24 pm

Bren wrote:The idiots behind the Panterrible site have a massive chip on their shoulder about something.

Bren · Post by **Bren** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:23 pm

p u k e wrote:[
Only person that would be emabarassed, or at least act it would have been Vinnie cause Pantera was more bout money to him so hes gotta play the
new Vinnie Paul role.

What the fuck are you talking about?

walnut · Post by **walnut** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:04 pm

You can tell he's getting pissed off here in the interview when the guy brings up Power Metal.

Kris Sabian · Post by **Kris Sabian** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:25 pm

Bren · Post by **Bren** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:10 pm

haha I have that issue of Kerrang, it's from sometime around 1993 I think.

Roz · Post by **Roz** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:45 pm

...they can come to our shows and dance...

wtf?

who danced at pantera shows?

Edna Bodine · Post by **Edna Bodine** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:49 pm

PhilCore wrote:
...they can come to our shows and dance...
wtf?

who danced at pantera shows?

edna fucking bodine, that's who.

Roz · Post by **Roz** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:54 pm

Edna Bodine wrote:
PhilCore wrote:
...they can come to our shows and dance...
wtf?

who danced at pantera shows?
edna fucking bodine, that's who.

billy idol wrote a song about this with his seminal punk outfit, Generation X.

Filthgrinder · Post by **Filthgrinder** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:20 pm

i'd pay good money to see him knock out axl rose

Roz · Post by **Roz** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:21 pm

Filthgrinder wrote:i'd pay good money to see him knock out axl rose

billy idol? me too, i adore the man.

Filthgrinder · Post by **Filthgrinder** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:22 pm

PhilCore wrote:
Filthgrinder wrote:i'd pay good money to see him knock out axl rose
billy idol? me too, i adore the man.

it could be Jerry Seinfeld for all i care, axl needs to get hurt.

Axl Rose · Post by **Axl Rose** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:01 pm

Axl Wouldnt fight anybody. He turned down Vince Neil ages ago and would the same today. you would have to get close and sucker punch him.

Lager · Post by **Lager** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:19 pm

Edna Bodine wrote:That has to be untrue. Weren't they still playing a couple of Power Metal tunes when they toured supporting "Cowboys From Hell" anyway?

I've got a gig from 3 days before CFH's release where they play a couple pre-CFH songs but I've never heard them playing any after CFH's release. Not '91 and onwards at least.

p u k e · Post by **p u k e** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:56 pm

Bren wrote:
p u k e wrote:[
Only person that would be emabarassed, or at least act it would have been Vinnie cause Pantera was more bout money to him so hes gotta play the
new Vinnie Paul role.
What the fuck are you talking about?

What don't u understand, Vinnie and Dime created the band, money was
made when they toughened shit up and created their own product instead of playin the safe route and doing what everyone else was doing and make just decent money. Vinnie was the business, anytime he was questioned about the old, the real pre phil glam shit, he kept it short and quick, could have made money off rerelease the old shit but wouldn't cause that would damage their rep. Alot of people that like Pantera are normal and its just a CD they own, they don't know every fucking detail like us dweebs do, it would re-open some shit.

BLACKLABELDAVE · Post by **BLACKLABELDAVE** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:05 am

That magazine asks some stupid ass questions

walnut · Post by **walnut** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:22 am

BLACKLABELDAVE wrote:That magazine asks some stupid ass questions

No it doesn't.

walnut · Post by **walnut** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:34 am

walnut wrote:
BLACKLABELDAVE wrote:That magazine asks some stupid ass questions
No it doesn't.

Bump, those are some good questions.

Web Of Hair · Post by **Web Of Hair** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:50 am

PhilCore wrote:
...they can come to our shows and dance...
wtf?

who danced at pantera shows?

on the Hot N Heavy live clip I uploaded to You Tube has some chick dancing!

Web Of Hair · Post by **Web Of Hair** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:53 am

BLACKLABELDAVE wrote:That magazine asks some stupid ass questions

Well when I finally launch my Web Of Hair site http://www.webofhair.com there will be off the wall questions that will be asked! Hell I made Dee Snider get choked up on one question when I interviewed him a while back for the Widowmaker zine I did and I even made him spill his drink on another!

You'll have to wait untill my site opens to read and possibly listen to that interview

Revolver · Post by **Revolver** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:56 am

Edna Bodine wrote:
PhilCore wrote:
...they can come to our shows and dance...
wtf?

who danced at pantera shows?
edna fucking bodine, that's who.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:28 pm

Revolver wrote:
Edna Bodine wrote:
PhilCore wrote:
...they can come to our shows and dance...
wtf?

who danced at pantera shows?
edna fucking bodine, that's who.

this thread is one dancing-edna photoshop away from ruling the archives.