Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
If you want your tone to sound like ass, go ahead scoop your mids.spawn2048 wrote:Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!
Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote:)
are you a fan or not a fan of the distortion tone on the song? Bare in mind it was recorded on a budget and compressed to hell and back to fit on the siteaeon wrote:If you want your tone to sound like ass, go ahead scoop your mids.spawn2048 wrote:Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!
Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote:)
errr no, thats stupid, the guitars are supposed to take up the mid-range in the spectrum. the scooped sound you are thinking of isnt Bass 10, Mid 0, High 10 when you EQ'd the guitars im guessing you completely took out the mid-range? thing is when EQ'ing and you want that scooped sound you would normally use a thin Q curve and cut at around 500-600Hz.spawn2048 wrote:Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!
ok, sorry guys, i underestimated some of you - if we are talking guitar EQ on an amp as in bass/mid/treble then mid scoop is what you do for a metal tone. However real EQs that acount for the whole of the frequency spectrum (ie 20Hz to 20kHz) are different.Metallash wrote:errr no, thats stupid, the guitars are supposed to take up the mid-range in the spectrum. the scooped sound you are thinking of isnt Bass 10, Mid 0, High 10 when you EQ'd the guitars im guessing you completely took out the mid-range? thing is when EQ'ing and you want that scooped sound you would normally use a thin Q curve and cut at around 500-600Hz.spawn2048 wrote:Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!
when scooping i usually roll off 100Hz and below, boost around 250-350Hz a little bit to thicken it up, cut 500-600Hz by about 5-6dB, boost around 2-3KHz a little bit to give it more presence, and then roll off at around 17KHz to get rid of hiss if there is any.
spawn2048 wrote:ok, sorry guys, i underestimated some of you - if we are talking guitar EQ on an amp as in bass/mid/treble then mid scoop is what you do for a metal tone. However real EQs that acount for the whole of the frequency spectrum (ie 20Hz to 20kHz) are different.Metallash wrote:errr no, thats stupid, the guitars are supposed to take up the mid-range in the spectrum. the scooped sound you are thinking of isnt Bass 10, Mid 0, High 10 when you EQ'd the guitars im guessing you completely took out the mid-range? thing is when EQ'ing and you want that scooped sound you would normally use a thin Q curve and cut at around 500-600Hz.spawn2048 wrote:Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!
when scooping i usually roll off 100Hz and below, boost around 250-350Hz a little bit to thicken it up, cut 500-600Hz by about 5-6dB, boost around 2-3KHz a little bit to give it more presence, and then roll off at around 17KHz to get rid of hiss if there is any.
To get metal tone using an amp, for live sound and recording, there needs to be a boost of treble and bass and a cut of mid (on the amp settings) and when recording the scoop is generally much smaller than live. However, in producion, you generally cut a bit of the low freq, and boost the low mids by a bit and the high mids by a bit more and keep the treble generally flat (unless you want a cutting lead sound)
If you think the tone is crap on the mp3 its coz it has been sampled lower than the traditioanl 44.1kHz (coz thats how mp3s are made folks!) and compressed to buggery to fit on the site.
Come see us live if you wanna hear real metal tone!
Yeah reminded me of at the gates and some parts reminded me of stuff from the first opeth album, whereabouts in the uk are you situated?FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast wrote:thanks
yeah it wasnt great quality to begin with, and then purevolume compressed it a load and the guitar tone especially (which has been debated, lol) has come out kinda scratchy.
we will be puting up another more varied track soon (as well as making the quality of the current one a lil better)
glad u like it
jesus christ, I am not talking shit. As I already explained the 'mid' knob on an amp does not represent the middle of the frequency spectrum of the whole world, it represents the middle of a guitars frequency spectrumChris wrote:spawn2048 wrote:ok, sorry guys, i underestimated some of you - if we are talking guitar EQ on an amp as in bass/mid/treble then mid scoop is what you do for a metal tone. However real EQs that acount for the whole of the frequency spectrum (ie 20Hz to 20kHz) are different.Metallash wrote:errr no, thats stupid, the guitars are supposed to take up the mid-range in the spectrum. the scooped sound you are thinking of isnt Bass 10, Mid 0, High 10 when you EQ'd the guitars im guessing you completely took out the mid-range? thing is when EQ'ing and you want that scooped sound you would normally use a thin Q curve and cut at around 500-600Hz.spawn2048 wrote:Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!
when scooping i usually roll off 100Hz and below, boost around 250-350Hz a little bit to thicken it up, cut 500-600Hz by about 5-6dB, boost around 2-3KHz a little bit to give it more presence, and then roll off at around 17KHz to get rid of hiss if there is any.
To get metal tone using an amp, for live sound and recording, there needs to be a boost of treble and bass and a cut of mid (on the amp settings) and when recording the scoop is generally much smaller than live. However, in producion, you generally cut a bit of the low freq, and boost the low mids by a bit and the high mids by a bit more and keep the treble generally flat (unless you want a cutting lead sound)
If you think the tone is crap on the mp3 its coz it has been sampled lower than the traditioanl 44.1kHz (coz thats how mp3s are made folks!) and compressed to buggery to fit on the site.
Come see us live if you wanna hear real metal tone!
your talking shit, if you want your guitar to be heard live you need midrange. if you cut the midrange live, then your guitar is just gonna be lost in a wall of mush with the kick drum and bass. you need midrage to cut through, especially live. the guitar is a midrange instrument, cutting it out is stupid.
and you dont need to cut mids out for a "metal" tone, go listen to slayer.
you obviously know nothing about guitar tone settings aside from those you've discovered in your bedroom. once you grow up you'll learn how real guitar players set their amps.spawn2048 wrote:Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!
Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote
Fuck it, as far as I can see all of you lot are just as much bedroom rockstars as you are making me out to be, and you have given me no reason to give a shit about what you think you know. I have prbably played in more gigs, with more musicians playing more different types of music than any of you have. I have also porbably done more live sound for more types of music than any of you. I have also recorded, engineered, produced and been a session musician on more pieces than any of you guys. If you are really that interested in what I do or don't know send me a PM with your address and I'll post you my personal demo CD with projects that weren't recorded in one weekend, on a tight budget with musicians that have never recorded before.Ben wrote:you obviously know nothing about guitar tone settings aside from those you've discovered in your bedroom. once you grow up you'll learn how real guitar players set their amps.spawn2048 wrote:Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about thataeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.
Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!
Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote
sue 'em sam!
