Why did Pantera hail "Power Metal"...
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Why did Pantera hail "Power Metal"...
..in 1990 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAlW7GOV ... re=related ....
Yet since then they disowned the album? Fucking frauds. There's good moments on their first 3 albums too yet they act like it was the worst music in the world.
Yet since then they disowned the album? Fucking frauds. There's good moments on their first 3 albums too yet they act like it was the worst music in the world.
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Erm no bands vehemently oppose their early material as much as Pantera. It's a well trodden joke around the metal community and saying they hadn't discovered their sound is rubbish.BrootalBrewd wrote:It's not like they suppress the cd's from being sold. There are tons more bands who have early material they don't sell as part of their catalouge. They hadn't really discovered their sound yet.metalhead4ever wrote:That's pretty disgusting poserdom then isn't it?
Their sound was nothing unique after 1988. They basically took thrash and watered it down and pussified it.
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Ebay or whatever. I've searched it online and found copies being sold.Bren wrote:Alright so where can I buy them?BrootalBrewd wrote: It's not like they suppress the cd's from being sold.
Last time I checked was around the time of Dime's death and they were all over 100 bucks

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ebay = not genuineBrootalBrewd wrote: Ebay or whatever. I've searched it online and found copies being sold.
Last time I checked was around the time of Dime's death and they were all over 100 bucks. I had seen alot cheaper prior to that though.
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I disagree, most people have only heard of Cowboys through Reinventing Pantera. It's bad marketing to have the heaviest band ever looking like a bunch of shemales. I doubt Vinnie would sell them if he had the rights.croninburg wrote:I doubt they have the rights to the early stuff, if they could make money from it then Vinnie would be selling them by now.
He might make some cash off of the old albums but they could take away future sales for the CFH-RTS era. If a 16 year old kid looks through the Pantera section of the store and he sees a guy getting punched in the face for Vulgar but then sees tough guy Phil with eyeliner on the kids gonna think, "what the fuck" and go buy a Slayer cd for his oldschool metal fix.Metalhead4ever probably proves the point, he's around that age, he probably liked Pantera at first but then saw Dragtera online and got really hostile at the band. Especially because now he knows Vinnie Paul will never gonna give him head being that he found out that it's the same band.
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Re: Why did Pantera hail "Power Metal"...
Power Metal owns your grammar.metalhead4ever wrote:..in 1990 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAlW7GOV ... re=related ....
Yet since then they disowned the album? Fucking frauds. There's good moments on their first 3 albums too yet they act like it was the worst music in the world.
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Every band has its coming up. They started out in the 80's so of course they were gonna do 80's metal. It actually probably helped them because when they went heavy in the 90's it was a unique sound with a lot of groove and melody. Dime could play anything and everything and the fact he started out glam 80's metal and introduced southern groove ensured the kickass sound he was to perfect over coming years.
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They were quite right to hail Power Metal, as it is an excellent heavy metal record.
The reason they later disowned it was probably simply down to the image. Musically, it's not a million miles away from CFH. You can definately tell its the same band.
They praised it because at the time they still included Power Metal material in their setlist. Don't quote me on this, but I read somewhere that Over and Out was performed as late as 1991. As they were no longer performing material from the first three albums and wanted to move towards a more groove/thrash orientated sound they chose not to praise those records, insisting instead they were just finding their feet during that period.
A good interview by the way and one I had not seen before.

The reason they later disowned it was probably simply down to the image. Musically, it's not a million miles away from CFH. You can definately tell its the same band.
They praised it because at the time they still included Power Metal material in their setlist. Don't quote me on this, but I read somewhere that Over and Out was performed as late as 1991. As they were no longer performing material from the first three albums and wanted to move towards a more groove/thrash orientated sound they chose not to praise those records, insisting instead they were just finding their feet during that period.
A good interview by the way and one I had not seen before.
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i think the 'finding their sound' is a legitimate excuse. i know when i hear recordings i made when i was 15 or 16 i cringe and can't believe i actually thought it was good at the time.
i do think that pantera have tried to play down what they used to be like but so what? at the end of the day i'm not going to stop listening to them because they once fit into the 'hair-metal' sub-genre. anybody who does is more of a fake than pantera. i'm sure the author of this thread falls neatly into that catagory. That or it's a fake account and me = owned.
i do think that pantera have tried to play down what they used to be like but so what? at the end of the day i'm not going to stop listening to them because they once fit into the 'hair-metal' sub-genre. anybody who does is more of a fake than pantera. i'm sure the author of this thread falls neatly into that catagory. That or it's a fake account and me = owned.
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That interview is pretty awesome. The live stuff actually makes Cowboys seem really heavy, whereas normally I feel that they didn't start getting really heavy until Far Beyond Driven.
It's not poserly to dislike your old material. Most people do that. One time Roger Waters said that Wish You Where Here was the only Pink Floyd album he can even stand to listen to. But I do think that they ought to release at least Power Metal. I haven't even heard it but it seems like a pretty killer album.
It's not poserly to dislike your old material. Most people do that. One time Roger Waters said that Wish You Where Here was the only Pink Floyd album he can even stand to listen to. But I do think that they ought to release at least Power Metal. I haven't even heard it but it seems like a pretty killer album.
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