Panterachat

Yo

hey if you guys have the time, please take a second to check out my band! We just got a purevolume page thingy with a song and pics n stuff.

We play melodic death metal like Arch Enemy n shiiit. This one has less melody and is more riffage n stuff, but, well see what u think!

Sorry for the quality (damn purevolume compressing it)

http://www.purevolume.com/cenotaphuk


Oh yeah, make sure to listen to the song all the way thru, and...err...yeah! Be sure to tell what you think!!

Enjoy!

1) The guitar players are talented.
2) Vocals were harsh and strong but muddy. What was he saying?
3) Typical stuff, nothing I haven't heard before.

cool, well thanks

ill try and put the 'more intersting' track on later, when i find a way to compress it lol (cos its too big atm)

but yeah, thanks

hmmmm damn- well, it was okay- i just can't get into death metal at all....

fair enough dude

I liked it

sounded like you had a sinth in there. not bad, reminded me of CoB

What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote

spawn2048 wrote:

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote:)

If you want your tone to sound like ass, go ahead scoop your mids.

aeon wrote:

spawn2048 wrote:

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote:)

If you want your tone to sound like ass, go ahead scoop your mids.

are you a fan or not a fan of the distortion tone on the song? Bare in mind it was recorded on a budget and compressed to hell and back to fit on the site

lmao... People who don't use mids when they record shouldn't be playing guitar.

or they like how they have their settings? WHO KNOWS

this is the best band i have heard on this board. but thats not saying much.

InfernalEmpire wrote:lmao... People who don't use mids when they record shouldn't be playing guitar.

lol, thanks a bunch Brandon

and yeah, my guitarist buddy has been shredding for aorund 11 years so i guess he knows what he's doing. if u dont like it its probably not cos he made a mistake, i dunno, just personal preference probably.

aw i dunno im not a guitarist

anyway, thanks for coments!

Pantera420 wrote:sounded like you had a sinth in there. not bad, reminded me of CoB

and no synth, u probably mean the layered vocal section, but thanks for comparisant! my bassist will be happy

spawn2048 wrote:

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

errr no, thats stupid, the guitars are supposed to take up the mid-range in the spectrum. the scooped sound you are thinking of isnt Bass 10, Mid 0, High 10 when you EQ'd the guitars im guessing you completely took out the mid-range? thing is when EQ'ing and you want that scooped sound you would normally use a thin Q curve and cut at around 500-600Hz.

when scooping i usually roll off 100Hz and below, boost around 250-350Hz a little bit to thicken it up, cut 500-600Hz by about 5-6dB, boost around 2-3KHz a little bit to give it more presence, and then roll off at around 17KHz to get rid of hiss if there is any.

Metallash wrote:

spawn2048 wrote:

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

errr no, thats stupid, the guitars are supposed to take up the mid-range in the spectrum. the scooped sound you are thinking of isnt Bass 10, Mid 0, High 10 when you EQ'd the guitars im guessing you completely took out the mid-range? thing is when EQ'ing and you want that scooped sound you would normally use a thin Q curve and cut at around 500-600Hz.

when scooping i usually roll off 100Hz and below, boost around 250-350Hz a little bit to thicken it up, cut 500-600Hz by about 5-6dB, boost around 2-3KHz a little bit to give it more presence, and then roll off at around 17KHz to get rid of hiss if there is any.

ok, sorry guys, i underestimated some of you - if we are talking guitar EQ on an amp as in bass/mid/treble then mid scoop is what you do for a metal tone. However real EQs that acount for the whole of the frequency spectrum (ie 20Hz to 20kHz) are different.

To get metal tone using an amp, for live sound and recording, there needs to be a boost of treble and bass and a cut of mid (on the amp settings) and when recording the scoop is generally much smaller than live. However, in producion, you generally cut a bit of the low freq, and boost the low mids by a bit and the high mids by a bit more and keep the treble generally flat (unless you want a cutting lead sound)

If you think the tone is crap on the mp3 its coz it has been sampled lower than the traditioanl 44.1kHz (coz thats how mp3s are made folks!) and compressed to buggery to fit on the site.

Come see us live if you wanna hear real metal tone!

spawn2048 wrote:

Metallash wrote:

spawn2048 wrote:

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

errr no, thats stupid, the guitars are supposed to take up the mid-range in the spectrum. the scooped sound you are thinking of isnt Bass 10, Mid 0, High 10 when you EQ'd the guitars im guessing you completely took out the mid-range? thing is when EQ'ing and you want that scooped sound you would normally use a thin Q curve and cut at around 500-600Hz.

when scooping i usually roll off 100Hz and below, boost around 250-350Hz a little bit to thicken it up, cut 500-600Hz by about 5-6dB, boost around 2-3KHz a little bit to give it more presence, and then roll off at around 17KHz to get rid of hiss if there is any.

ok, sorry guys, i underestimated some of you - if we are talking guitar EQ on an amp as in bass/mid/treble then mid scoop is what you do for a metal tone. However real EQs that acount for the whole of the frequency spectrum (ie 20Hz to 20kHz) are different.

To get metal tone using an amp, for live sound and recording, there needs to be a boost of treble and bass and a cut of mid (on the amp settings) and when recording the scoop is generally much smaller than live. However, in producion, you generally cut a bit of the low freq, and boost the low mids by a bit and the high mids by a bit more and keep the treble generally flat (unless you want a cutting lead sound)

If you think the tone is crap on the mp3 its coz it has been sampled lower than the traditioanl 44.1kHz (coz thats how mp3s are made folks!) and compressed to buggery to fit on the site.

Come see us live if you wanna hear real metal tone!

your talking shit, if you want your guitar to be heard live you need midrange. if you cut the midrange live, then your guitar is just gonna be lost in a wall of mush with the kick drum and bass. you need midrage to cut through, especially live. the guitar is a midrange instrument, cutting it out is stupid.

and you dont need to cut mids out for a "metal" tone, go listen to slayer.

well keep the new recordings coming. just dont be TOO swedish. tighten up the drummer. add some mids to the vocals. or just turn them up in the mix. oh yeah, change your bands name. other than that, keep up the good work

I could put you in contact with some hertfordshire promoters if you like.

croninburg wrote:I could put you in contact with some hertfordshire promoters if you like.

really? that would be awesome! please do! PM me or something

I like the music, but the tone just isn't my thing. Push your mids a little bit and it would sound alot better IMO.

don't listen to aeon, lower the mids and put the treble at 100%

hippy wrote:don't listen to aeon, lower the mids and put the treble at 100%

Im enjoying this song, its pretty good, you need a better mix though.

thanks

yeah it wasnt great quality to begin with, and then purevolume compressed it a load and the guitar tone especially (which has been debated, lol) has come out kinda scratchy.

we will be puting up another more varied track soon (as well as making the quality of the current one a lil better)

glad u like it

FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast wrote:thanks

yeah it wasnt great quality to begin with, and then purevolume compressed it a load and the guitar tone especially (which has been debated, lol) has come out kinda scratchy.

we will be puting up another more varied track soon (as well as making the quality of the current one a lil better)

glad u like it

Yeah reminded me of at the gates and some parts reminded me of stuff from the first opeth album, whereabouts in the uk are you situated?

south, sort of surrey hampshre area

you UK too dude?

awesome, a band doing absolutely nothing different.

Chris wrote:

spawn2048 wrote:

Metallash wrote:

spawn2048 wrote:

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

errr no, thats stupid, the guitars are supposed to take up the mid-range in the spectrum. the scooped sound you are thinking of isnt Bass 10, Mid 0, High 10 when you EQ'd the guitars im guessing you completely took out the mid-range? thing is when EQ'ing and you want that scooped sound you would normally use a thin Q curve and cut at around 500-600Hz.

when scooping i usually roll off 100Hz and below, boost around 250-350Hz a little bit to thicken it up, cut 500-600Hz by about 5-6dB, boost around 2-3KHz a little bit to give it more presence, and then roll off at around 17KHz to get rid of hiss if there is any.

ok, sorry guys, i underestimated some of you - if we are talking guitar EQ on an amp as in bass/mid/treble then mid scoop is what you do for a metal tone. However real EQs that acount for the whole of the frequency spectrum (ie 20Hz to 20kHz) are different.

To get metal tone using an amp, for live sound and recording, there needs to be a boost of treble and bass and a cut of mid (on the amp settings) and when recording the scoop is generally much smaller than live. However, in producion, you generally cut a bit of the low freq, and boost the low mids by a bit and the high mids by a bit more and keep the treble generally flat (unless you want a cutting lead sound)

If you think the tone is crap on the mp3 its coz it has been sampled lower than the traditioanl 44.1kHz (coz thats how mp3s are made folks!) and compressed to buggery to fit on the site.

Come see us live if you wanna hear real metal tone!

your talking shit, if you want your guitar to be heard live you need midrange. if you cut the midrange live, then your guitar is just gonna be lost in a wall of mush with the kick drum and bass. you need midrage to cut through, especially live. the guitar is a midrange instrument, cutting it out is stupid.

and you dont need to cut mids out for a "metal" tone, go listen to slayer.

jesus christ, I am not talking shit. As I already explained the 'mid' knob on an amp does not represent the middle of the frequency spectrum of the whole world, it represents the middle of a guitars frequency spectrum

ok, right, I'm listening to slayer right now, and, oooh, oooh, ooooooh my god - the guitars have a cut mid

Just out of interest, on what standing to you base this insight about mid scoops? Becuase I personally have 11 years of guitar playing epxerience, 3 physics thesise on sound, standing waves, frequency responses, frequency spectra, musical instruments etc etc advice from 2 teachers both of whom with about 20 years of experience, and ooh, every guitarist that has ever played metal.....so I would love to know where your insight is coming from.....

Right - firstly, sorry to everyone for coming accross as an arsehole

Thanks for all the fantastic things you have said about the song - especially offering to get us intouch with some promoters

Just for the record, the sound quality of that song is abysmal for two reasons. Firstly, Doug (bless his little cotton socks) didn't use the best program in the world for converting the song to mp3, which screwed it over slightly. And secondly, it was compressed further by pure volume making it sound like a muddy pile of poo. I am in the process of rectifying these problems using actual music production software so in the next few days a better version of Conceit will be available and so should the next song - Purge

spawn2048 wrote: Purge

sue 'em sam!

this band is better than most on headbangers ball. but thats not saying much either.

AlphaOmegaCFH wrote:

spawn2048 wrote: Purge

sue 'em sam!

sorry, does a song by the name of 'Purge' already exist? If so we are not intentionally ripping it off as I for one have never heard of it.....

spawn2048 wrote:

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote

you obviously know nothing about guitar tone settings aside from those you've discovered in your bedroom. once you grow up you'll learn how real guitar players set their amps.

Ben wrote:

spawn2048 wrote:

aeon wrote:What are your amp settings? Crank your mids and roll back the low-end on the guitar.

Im one of the guitarists in FlamingPsychoMonkeyBeast's band and I really hope you're joking about that

Metal tones are achieved by doing exactly the opposite, scoop those mids, scoop scoop scoop those mids and get as much bass and treble out of your guitar, effects, distortion, pre-amp and poweramp as humanly possible!

Thanks for the compliment SuicideNote

you obviously know nothing about guitar tone settings aside from those you've discovered in your bedroom. once you grow up you'll learn how real guitar players set their amps.

Fuck it, as far as I can see all of you lot are just as much bedroom rockstars as you are making me out to be, and you have given me no reason to give a shit about what you think you know. I have prbably played in more gigs, with more musicians playing more different types of music than any of you have. I have also porbably done more live sound for more types of music than any of you. I have also recorded, engineered, produced and been a session musician on more pieces than any of you guys. If you are really that interested in what I do or don't know send me a PM with your address and I'll post you my personal demo CD with projects that weren't recorded in one weekend, on a tight budget with musicians that have never recorded before.

Would you like to make an informed intellectual comment or just post pictures of you just after you've wet yourself?