Line 6 or Marshall amps?

Jebodiah · Post by **Jebodiah** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:26 pm

I'm still having trouble picking out an amp in the future, I was going to just get a 100w tube amp by Vox, but I thought getting a half stack amp would be handy if I ever find people to jam with. I heard Line 6 amps are around $600 or over other than Marshall amps being $800+. I need an amp loud enough to compete with the drums obviously but with a price range less than $1000.

Any suggestions?

Hailblaze · Post by **Hailblaze** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:04 pm

Line 6 sucks

Jebodiah · Post by **Jebodiah** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:01 pm

oh ok.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:39 pm

Hailblaze wrote:Line 6 sucks

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:21 pm

If you want something loud and cheap just get a crate amp. Marshalls under 1k typically suck too. I would get a solid state over a tube amp if I were you. Tubes can be expensive to replace.

hektik · Post by **hektik** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:51 pm

but the sound of tube amps is absolutely fuckin gnarly

Three Second Doom · Post by **Three Second Doom** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:01 am

Yeah, after going tube, there's no looking back.

For metal though, I guess some solid state stacks are passable.

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:44 am

peavy valveking 212

i think i paid $600

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:48 am

Dimebag used solid state amps forever.

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:40 pm

My fav. solid state

Too bad they're going for more than they're actually worth

JesseJames wrote:If you want something loud and cheap just get a crate amp. Marshalls under 1k typically suck too. I would get a solid state over a tube amp if I were you. Tubes can be expensive to replace.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:56 pm

Please enlighten me as to what I said that was incorrect.

Jebodiah · Post by **Jebodiah** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:26 pm

Crate, no thanks. Buddy of mine owned one and it broke after a few months somehow. I forgot all about Peavy amps, I'll have to check that one out Dawdy. I know nothing about amps and what I'm looking for in them other than they have to be tube and loud enough to play in a band, that's all.

And would a distortion pedal be necessary to have with one of these amps or would the amp itself give me a good enough sound and all I need to add is a noise gate to prevent feedback?

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:18 pm

JesseJames wrote:Please enlighten me as to what I said that was incorrect.

'get a crate' comment was terrible.

Why don't you tell him to just get a Behringer or b52 or some other Chinese made crap.

Jebodiah · Post by **Jebodiah** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:54 pm

Or I can blow the $3000 on an Orange amp and get yelled at by my dad.

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:13 pm

I traded out my Mesa for this baby, I love it. It's like a JCM800 but with the all mods people like to put on it.

Jebodiah · Post by **Jebodiah** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:09 pm

CFH Eternal wrote:I traded out my Mesa for this baby, I love it. It's like a JCM800 but with the all mods people like to put on it.

How much would this cost now?

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:22 pm

Anywhere (ebay prices) from $250-$400, it's the amp Soundgarden used on Badmotorfinger and Baroness used.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:47 am

CFH Eternal wrote:
JesseJames wrote:Please enlighten me as to what I said that was incorrect.
'get a crate' comment was terrible.

Why don't you tell him to just get a Behringer or b52 or some other Chinese made crap.

He can if he wants to. It's not like he has an unlimited budget, and pretty much all he wants is something loud and cheap. Therefore, crate amps are your best suggestion. I didn't realize he was picking out the best amp for his tone for his bands groundbreaking new album.

Three Second Doom · Post by **Three Second Doom** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:07 pm

You could say that about anyone that buys high-end gear. Everyone might as well buy budget gear because most will not be coming out with a groundbreaking album. It's smart to look ahead and buy something that you will still enjoy 5 years from now when you progress as a musician, rather that buy some cheap p.o.s and have to buy another when you get tired of it or when you find out it doesn't cut through the mix all that well.

Three Second Doom · Post by **Three Second Doom** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:12 pm

That being said, nothing supplants actually trying gear out.

ron c nigbur · Post by **ron c nigbur** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:14 pm

If you're just playing at home (especially if it's not your own home) I would recommend a low wattage valve amp like this, with a good distortion and EQ pedal

Jebodiah · Post by **Jebodiah** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:38 pm

ron c nigbur wrote:If you're just playing at home (especially if it's not your own home) I would recommend a low wattage valve amp like this, with a good distortion and EQ pedal

Fucking gay.

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:47 pm

JesseJames wrote:
CFH Eternal wrote:
JesseJames wrote:Please enlighten me as to what I said that was incorrect.
'get a crate' comment was terrible.

Why don't you tell him to just get a Behringer or b52 or some other Chinese made crap.

He can if he wants to. It's not like he has an unlimited budget, and pretty much all he wants is something loud and cheap. Therefore, crate amps are your best suggestion. I didn't realize he was picking out the best amp for his tone for his bands groundbreaking new album.

Yes and Peavey does that. If it is one thing I have learned, and you should know due to your tastes in guitars, it's almost better to save up for what you want instead of just buy the cheapest thing around. Life is too short to play crappy amps/guitars.

Three Second Doom wrote:That being said, nothing supplants actually trying gear out.

Listen to a man who knows what he is saying.

tacos · Post by **tacos** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:29 pm

Marshall

and fuck Crate
and fuck Line 6
and go fuck yourself while you're at it

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:31 pm

I think the bogner ecstasy is the best amp out there today. I should get one. Because I can.

tomEtom · Post by **tomEtom** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:23 pm

JesseJames wrote:I think the bogner ecstasy is the best amp out there today. I should get one. Because I can.

Fancy gear doesn't mean you're good at guitar.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:07 pm

Doesn't mean you're bad either, plus you've never heard me play. I'm better than 99% of the ones who talk shit about my playing. Except for DBS, he is much better than me.
Fucking parrots, dont know shit, just say what they hear.

Three Second Doom · Post by **Three Second Doom** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:20 pm

I don't think any skill level should be necessary to go out and buy higher end gear, if it happens to be a piece of equipment that sounds good to your ears. I do think a lot of musicians fall into the bigger-is-better mentality when it comes to these $1000+ dollar heads or ridiculously expensive guitars. Not too many really have any kind of tone in their head they want to create, so they end up with high end gear just because. I think it takes a much more interesting musician to get their idea across with gear that isn't necessarily high priced or regarded as high-end.

Three Second Doom · Post by **Three Second Doom** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:22 pm

Also, any musician who considers himself better than another is missing the point. Even if there was an objective way to make that assertion, it's nothing more than masturbation.

AoD · Post by **AoD** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:47 am

for a practice amp line6 is awesome. i use their shit all the time, fuck the haterz.

ron c nigbur · Post by **ron c nigbur** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:56 pm

JesseJames wrote:Doesn't mean you're bad either, plus you've never heard me play. I'm better than 99% of the ones who talk shit about my playing. Except for DBS, he is much better than me.
Fucking parrots, dont know shit, just say what they hear.

That clip of you playing the darkness wasn't exactly stellar.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:04 pm

ron c nigbur wrote:
JesseJames wrote:Doesn't mean you're bad either, plus you've never heard me play. I'm better than 99% of the ones who talk shit about my playing. Except for DBS, he is much better than me.
Fucking parrots, dont know shit, just say what they hear.
That clip of you playing the darkness wasn't exactly stellar.

Um, i didnt mess up a single part of it. Quit being stupid.

tomEtom · Post by **tomEtom** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:04 pm

Jesse I'm not hating on ya, but the last part...."Because I can" was what I was pointing out.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:22 pm

So someone shouldn't buy an expensive painting if they aren't a master artist themselves?

ron c nigbur · Post by **ron c nigbur** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:27 pm

Do you really think that's an appropriate analogy?

Jebodiah · Post by **Jebodiah** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:30 pm

Should you eat at Hell's Kitchen even though you're a terrible cook?

ron c nigbur · Post by **ron c nigbur** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:32 pm

Much better Jeb

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:15 pm

ron c nigbur wrote:Do you really think that's an appropriate analogy?

How isn't it? You're just going to argue with me just to argue aren't you? Good tactic, enoy using it myself, but please come up with better material otherwise I'm going to lose interest very quickly.

ron c nigbur · Post by **ron c nigbur** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:27 pm

A painter creates paintings, a guitarist creates music. An amp is to a guitarist as an easel or canvas is to a painter.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:52 pm

You are gay as penis is to hairy butthole.