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Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:58 am
by JesseJames
I'm highly considering building my own guitars. I've been reading on it and it doesn't seem to be too awful difficult.
I think I'm gonna start with an explorer style body, or a jackson king v style. Then work my way up to arch tops like a les paul.

Anyone ever built there own stuff here before?

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:36 pm
by croninburg
Are you going to start literally from scratch or put together a pre bought neck and body with your choice of hardware? I've never done either but am constantly considering the latter. Being a luthier would be a great job, until you cut a finger off.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:44 pm
by JesseJames
I'm planning on starting from scratch. You can buy the body blanks and template and used a router with a guide bit to cut out the body and all the cavities. It's not all that difficult.
I just have to clean out my little storage area here and buy all the tools to do it with. Like a bandsaw, jointer, router, drill press, and other various things.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:52 pm
by The Fear
You can use my body.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:54 am
by Acid Flashbakc
do you like to take guitars apart? have you ever switched necks that weren't bolt-ons?

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:24 pm
by AoD
buy a fretboard already made and triple measure everything before you cut holes and shit. make sure the scale length matches the fret spacing, and the neck angle matches the bridge height. if you do that you'll be allright. dont waste your money on AAAAAAAAAAAA wood or any bullshit like that

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:59 pm
by JesseJames
I kinda dont want to do a fixed tunomatic style bridge just because of the neck angle. With a floyd rose or a fender style trem you don't have to worry about neck angle nearly as much.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:49 pm
by JesseJames
Getting my little shop ready, got a 9" bandsaw, and plunge router, and router table and some templates. Drill press coming in, should be good to go pretty soon!

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:32 pm
by Sky Black
Nice. I'm sure all the other luthiers that frequent the PBB musician's corner that gets one new post every 17 days will be very excited to follow your progress.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:36 pm
by JesseJames
Sky Black wrote:Nice. I'm sure all the other luthiers that frequent the PBB musician's corner that gets one new post every 17 days will be very excited to follow your progress.
Says the cunt that asked me to build her a jackson king v.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:59 pm
by croninburg
Sky Black wrote:Nice. I'm sure all the other luthiers that frequent the PBB musician's corner that gets one new post every 17 days will be very excited to follow your progress.
Chill out. I'm sure JJ has real life friends he can discuss this stuff with.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:23 pm
by JesseJames
If only I could remember who the first to reply was......

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:30 pm
by croninburg
Someone on the internet?

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:31 pm
by JesseJames
Yes.....someone on this very forum.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:38 pm
by AoD
JesseJames wrote:I kinda dont want to do a fixed tunomatic style bridge just because of the neck angle. With a floyd rose or a fender style trem you don't have to worry about neck angle nearly as much.

you could always just sink the bridge into the body like godin does, but it normally feels much better playing a guitar with that angle. compare a tele/ibanez to your prs/lespaul kinda shit.. it might be worth trying the angle thing
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i am uploading 3 luthier books scanned into pdf's , ill post that link in a minute

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:00 pm
by JesseJames
Oh, wow, thanks for that example. I never thought of that. I did decide to go with a one piece wrap around style bridge for the guitar. I don't feel like routing the tremelo out on my first build. Better to just keep it simple and learn how to do neck angle at the same time.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:22 pm
by AoD
shitty connection, taking forever to upload but heres the best of the 3 ..
http://rapidshare.com/files/402097592/M ... ck__2_.zip

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:29 pm
by AoD
i built my first guitar out of scrap pine just for practice to figure out the angles and shit before i wrecked expensive wood, i never put hardware/fretboard or anything on it and it helped me figure out alot of shit. youll probly fuck up the first one so you might as well do a practice one first

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:25 pm
by Jebodiah
Not all of us come from a wealthy family that can afford all of this, JJ.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:10 pm
by JesseJames
Nigger I never drank milk out of wine glasses. Don't talk to me about family wealth.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:12 pm
by JesseJames
That, and I grew up dirt fucking poor.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:57 pm
by AoD

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:59 pm
by AoD
Jebodiah wrote:Not all of us come from a wealthy family that can afford all of this, JJ.
uh. he said build, not buy.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:59 pm
by JesseJames
Thanks for that link. I have been reading the fuck out of that.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:53 pm
by Jebodiah
AoD wrote:
Jebodiah wrote:Not all of us come from a wealthy family that can afford all of this, JJ.
uh. he said build, not buy.
Still costs money...

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:27 pm
by JesseJames
Most things do cost money. What's your point?

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:30 pm
by JesseJames
Top wood came in today. I need to get it jointed then glue it together then get it planed. But looks like it will be pretty nice.
Not going to plane or joint it for 2 weeks to let it get acclimated to my climate.

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Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:15 pm
by AoD
ug. dont use contact cement on those untill you get used to doing it, try some slow epoxy or horse glue.. its fuckin hard to get the line to match up so you dont end up with a huge gap in there..

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:17 pm
by JesseJames
I'm going to just be using some titebond II after I get it planed and jointed, put it in my bar clamps and it shouldn't be a problem at all.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:54 am
by Jebodiah
Don't do it, JJ.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:14 pm
by JesseJames
Neck wood came in yesterday, it's claro walnut. I decided to do a scarf joint type neck and headstock because it was harder to do. I figure if I can get this right then I'm okay.
So I took it out, found the centerline, mocked up my templates around that, then just went for my cut. 13 degree angle. Now all I have to do is joint the cuts flat and route my truss rod channel and glue my heel stock in.

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Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:16 pm
by Jebodiah
:x

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:34 pm
by JesseJames
Jeb's gonna be mad. :pimp:

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Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:24 pm
by JesseJames
So anyway, the top wood was reduced to veneer stock, I bought some new wood, got a really nice flame maple neck peice, and some flame maple top wood that I glued together tonight, gonna cut it out tommorow and attach it to my bottom piece of mahogany, progress should pick up from here. I got my scarf joint done, which was a total nightmare, I just gotta get the truss rod in so I can route the channel.
P.S. I hope this pissed you off.

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Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:21 am
by mo0sE
cool man, good luck with that :tup:

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:14 pm
by JesseJames
Thank you Mr. Mo0se.
Here it is all clamped up.

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Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:24 pm
by Mad Muir
nice clamps, dude.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:00 am
by Jebodiah
Just stop putting that finishing job you have on your other guitars, it looks ugly and you should try something different. I'm sure you'll appreciate it more. Good job so far. :tup:

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:59 am
by EvilisthenewGood
Lots of wood in this thread.

Re: Anyone here with any luthier experience?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:13 am
by Izzy
EvilisthenewGood wrote:Lots of wood in this thread.
I love that I can still laugh at stupid shit like this :lol: :tup: