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I want a rig that sounds like this :(

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:53 pm
by Maelstrom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-JD5AdCpY4



What bass/amp/effect would I have to use? That sound is just so gnarly :aargh:

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:04 pm
by Pfl?yd
The Geddy Lee Jazz Bass would be a good start.

But really all you really need is really light-gauge strings and really heavy hands. He digs in pretty hard and he doesn't even use an amplifier anymore (hence the backline of washing machines). It's 100% jumping from his fingers. Just crank up the volume on both your pickups, push the input gain of your amp up as high as it will go, and just lay into the motherfucker.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:12 pm
by slay
geddy lee doesen't use an amp anymore?

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:18 pm
by PABassPlayer
Pfl?yd wrote:The Geddy Lee Jazz Bass would be a good start.

But really all you really need is really light-gauge strings and really heavy hands. He digs in pretty hard and he doesn't even use an amplifier anymore (hence the backline of washing machines). It's 100% jumping from his fingers. Just crank up the volume on both your pickups, push the input gain of your amp up as high as it will go, and just lay into the motherfucker.
PFloyd, I have to disagree with Geddy Lee Jazz...Geddys infamous sound of the earty Rush was created with a Wal Bass. The Geddy Jazz you buy off the rack is not even close to what Geddy is playing. I owned one...it's not that great...My US Jazz blew it away in sound and playability.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:19 pm
by Maelstrom
PABassPlayer wrote:Wal Bass.
:aargh: :aargh:

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:22 pm
by Pfl?yd
slay wrote:geddy lee doesen't use an amp anymore?
Nope, he runs direct into the front-of-house. He doesn't actually have much bass in his tone, so an amp is pretty superfluous. A little bit of overdrive from something like a Sansamp Bass Driver will go a long way too, but it's largely just attacking the bass like a rabid badger.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:25 pm
by slay
Pfl?yd wrote:
slay wrote:geddy lee doesen't use an amp anymore?
Nope, he runs direct into the front-of-house. He doesn't actually have much bass in his tone, so an amp is pretty superfluous. A little bit of overdrive from something like a Sansamp Bass Driver will go a long way too, but it's largely just attacking the bass like a rabid badger.
ya learn something new everyday :tup:

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:43 pm
by Pfl?yd
PABassPlayer wrote:
Pfl?yd wrote:The Geddy Lee Jazz Bass would be a good start.

But really all you really need is really light-gauge strings and really heavy hands. He digs in pretty hard and he doesn't even use an amplifier anymore (hence the backline of washing machines). It's 100% jumping from his fingers. Just crank up the volume on both your pickups, push the input gain of your amp up as high as it will go, and just lay into the motherfucker.
PFloyd, I have to disagree with Geddy Lee Jazz...Geddys infamous sound of the earty Rush was created with a Wal Bass. The Geddy Jazz you buy off the rack is not even close to what Geddy is playing. I owned one...it's not that great...My US Jazz blew it away in sound and playability.
Well, I was mostly addressing what he was playing in that video.

Truly if you want the early Rush tones, a Rickenbacker would be a good place to really start. And aggressive hands. It's all in the hands.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:19 pm
by hektik
that tone combined with the Steve Harris clack is the best tone for a bass. Mean, dirty, and gritty as fuck.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:07 am
by basstard
hi mids, highs boosted, a little bit of overdrive, a cab with 10" speakers, new stainless steel strings and technique

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:12 am
by Three Second Doom
My friend was telling me how Geddy would split his pickups and run them into his setup separately, one with the mids boosted and more treble-y and one with the mids cut a bit and heavier on the low end. Makes sense to get that low yet distinctive sound that cuts through really well. Obviously it's not too practical to try to replicate it but I thought it was interesting.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:09 am
by The Doctor
I've always been partial to this kind of bass tone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJNzQlcCKqw

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:16 am
by Acid Flashbakc
Three Second Doom wrote:My friend was telling me how Geddy would split his pickups and run them into his setup separately, one with the mids boosted and more treble-y and one with the mids cut a bit and heavier on the low end. Makes sense to get that low yet distinctive sound that cuts through really well. Obviously it's not too practical to try to replicate it but I thought it was interesting.
billy sheehan also does this :tup:

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:31 am
by Pfl?yd
The Doctor wrote:I've always been partial to this kind of bass tone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJNzQlcCKqw
Delay, reverb, chorus, and a little bit of phase.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:53 pm
by Maelstrom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34HrFDNOEg

1:11 :aargh:


I'll probably be the 123856th person to say that, but I'd love to own a magic bass that would let me reproduce the sound of various basses from albums I listen to :oops:

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:58 pm
by CFH Eternal
I didn't like the mods that Scott Reeder did to his Rickenbacker's (humbuckers in the bridge position) but it gave him a cool tone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-B_1wqQNH0

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:34 am
by Stealthy
What ever rig he's using it sure sounds like
he's got great tone and so does this guy, well kinda--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVl39LBZGMw

Just make sure to skip past this sing-ing at the begining... :D

He's pretty good for an old guy...

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:28 am
by Wrona
Stealthy wrote: He's pretty good for an old guy.
That was a pretty ignorant statement.
That said, i did not care to review the video you have posted.
You are an asshole to the 5th power.

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:05 pm
by Pfl?yd
I plugged my Bongo into my GT-6B, turned it to the "Geddy" setting, and it's actually pretty damn close to that tone.

I'm going to be playing "Tom Sawyer" all day now.

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:46 pm
by Phantom Green
Hey Pfl?yd, do you like James Whiton? He's one of the best bassists I have seen play live. Their albums do them no justice, but if you ever get a chance to see the Eric Mcfadden Trio and haven't seen them yet, definitely check them out. :tup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zkcj-SPoYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSnIWzb ... re=related

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:22 pm
by Pfl?yd
Phantom Green wrote:Hey Pfl?yd, do you like James Whiton? He's one of the best bassists I have seen play live. Their albums do them no justice, but if you ever get a chance to see the Eric Mcfadden Trio and haven't seen them yet, definitely check them out. :tup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zkcj-SPoYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSnIWzb ... re=related
I've never heard of them, to be honest. I watched the solo and was like "ok". I kind of had a revelation about "wank" music in that I only played the shit when I was playing it for other people and going "listen to what THIS guy is doing here" but never listened to the shit in my car or by myself. That was kind of a red flag that I was listening more for "tricks" than I was for "music" and started gearing my musical interests into stuff where the music itself was the focal point.

And you CAN be an awesome musician and playing music-oriented stuff as opposed to wank-off stuff and that's where I tend to put my listening--and playing--efforts.

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:42 pm
by Phantom Green
Pfl?yd wrote:
Phantom Green wrote:Hey Pfl?yd, do you like James Whiton? He's one of the best bassists I have seen play live. Their albums do them no justice, but if you ever get a chance to see the Eric Mcfadden Trio and haven't seen them yet, definitely check them out. :tup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zkcj-SPoYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQSnIWzb ... re=related
I've never heard of them, to be honest. I watched the solo and was like "ok". I kind of had a revelation about "wank" music in that I only played the shit when I was playing it for other people and going "listen to what THIS guy is doing here" but never listened to the shit in my car or by myself. That was kind of a red flag that I was listening more for "tricks" than I was for "music" and started gearing my musical interests into stuff where the music itself was the focal point.

And you CAN be an awesome musician and playing music-oriented stuff as opposed to wank-off stuff and that's where I tend to put my listening--and playing--efforts.
James is more about feel than anything. He usually plays with his eyes closed, and you can tell he's fused to that bass. I've heard some amazing things come from him. He used to bring his actual upright bass to gigs, which he told me is worth several thousand dollars before getting that smaller one for gigging. Definitely a class musician.

Here's him showign someone his slap technique:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=21313146