Looking to buy a new Amp. recommendations...

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:25 pm

I'm looking to spend around $500. Want something mostly for metal. I was thinking about checking out the Line 6 spider, but i read reviews that they are horrible.

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:38 pm

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=481442

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:49 pm

have you played through it Wayne? what did you think?

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:55 pm

i didn't, i got a triple xxx 2x12 combo.

i hear good things about valveking.
and i highly suggest peavey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CI117wHoKQ

slay · Post by **slay** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:02 pm

peavey triple xxx sounds sweet as hell but ya wont find one for 500 bucks

for cheap i would get this

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=480731

i think behringer equipment is very underated

now 259 bucks for that amp is good. Im thinking of buying it myself.

heres a metal demo of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRqE1L-ZFf4

sounds good for a 260 dollar amp.

iv been using the vamp2 for about 6-7 years and i still really like it. (that amp pretty much has a vamp built into it)

another metal demo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXrOH4RjE78

AoD · Post by **AoD** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:47 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ampeg-VH-140C-Guita ... 1|294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.com/Peavey-5150-212-Com ... 1|294%3A50

AoD · Post by **AoD** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:50 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/Line-6-AX2-212-Comb ... 1|294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.com/Line-6-Flextone-III ... 1|294%3A50

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:30 pm

So dawd, you buy an amp yet?
What did you go for?

stoic · Post by **stoic** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:45 pm

spider's the best low end one i've fiddled with. unless you get lucky with pawn shops and live in a big city or something.

Phantom Green · Post by **Phantom Green** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:47 pm

A friend of mine has this spider http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=482272

Pretty clean for the price.

slay · Post by **slay** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:00 pm

my local music store has the peavey 112 valve king on sale for 279.. thats a pretty good damn deal.

Musiciand friend wants 400 US dollars.

morgbite · Post by **morgbite** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:07 am

DON'T GET THE LINE 6 SPIDER. DON'T DON'T DON' DON'T!!!!!

I've had 2 of them. Both totally useless when turned up loud or for gigging.

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:10 pm

Hunter/Killer wrote:So dawd, you buy an amp yet?
What did you go for?

i just went to the local shop today to browse. they didnt have the valveking 112, but they had the 212 for $599. i might get that instead.

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:21 pm

fuckin eh
try to haggle or just put it on lay away

slay · Post by **slay** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:24 pm

check www.musiciandfriend.com maybe they got some stuff still on sale

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:37 pm

slay wrote:check www.musiciandfriend.com maybe they got some stuff still on sale

can't believe that link worked

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:17 pm

hk was suggesting the valveking combo. i have the half-stack and would recommend it

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:57 am

yea id take that valveking combo over any line 6/behringer trash anyday

slay · Post by **slay** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:55 pm

Acid Flashbakc wrote:6/behringer trash anyday

behringer is good for the price!

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:57 pm

slay wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:6/behringer trash anyday

behringer is good for the price!

If you like throwing money away.

slay · Post by **slay** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:05 pm

CFH Eternal wrote:
slay wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:6/behringer trash anyday

behringer is good for the price!
If you like throwing money away.

or if your not a trendy boutique amp homo and dont mind paying a fraction of the price for tons of different sounds/effects.

CFH Eternal · Post by **CFH Eternal** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:16 pm

slay wrote:
CFH Eternal wrote:
slay wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:6/behringer trash anyday

behringer is good for the price!
If you like throwing money away.
or if your not a trendy boutique amp homo and dont mind paying a fraction of the price for tons of different sounds/effects.

Never said I was, why don't you save up the money and get a Line6

slay · Post by **slay** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:19 pm

CFH Eternal wrote:
slay wrote:
CFH Eternal wrote:
slay wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:6/behringer trash anyday

behringer is good for the price!
If you like throwing money away.
or if your not a trendy boutique amp homo and dont mind paying a fraction of the price for tons of different sounds/effects.
Never said I was, why don't you save up the money and get a Line6

maybe if my vamp bites the dust i'll buy a pod.

back on topic, Dawdy did you try the 212 valveking? does it have a nice chunky distortion?

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:31 pm

slay wrote:
CFH Eternal wrote:
slay wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:6/behringer trash anyday

behringer is good for the price!
If you like throwing money away.
or if your not a trendy boutique amp homo and dont mind paying a fraction of the price for tons of different sounds/effects.

behringer is still trash. if you want quality you have to pay for it. i'm also not endorsing spending 2.5k on an orange combo or whatever their insane prices are this week

slay · Post by **slay** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:54 pm

Acid Flashbakc wrote:
slay wrote:
CFH Eternal wrote:
slay wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:6/behringer trash anyday

behringer is good for the price!
If you like throwing money away.
or if your not a trendy boutique amp homo and dont mind paying a fraction of the price for tons of different sounds/effects.
behringer is still trash. if you want quality you have to pay for it. i'm also not endorsing spending 2.5k on an orange combo or whatever their insane prices are this week

how many behringer products have you owned? im not trying to start shit im just saying that out of the two behringer products i own i have never had any issues with them and they were priced much better then their competitors.

Mind you if i was playing shows i would invest in something other then behringer, but for being just a hobbyist like myself it does me fine.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:07 pm

slay wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
slay wrote:
CFH Eternal wrote:
slay wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:6/behringer trash anyday

behringer is good for the price!
If you like throwing money away.
or if your not a trendy boutique amp homo and dont mind paying a fraction of the price for tons of different sounds/effects.
behringer is still trash. if you want quality you have to pay for it. i'm also not endorsing spending 2.5k on an orange combo or whatever their insane prices are this week
how many behringer products have you owned? im not trying to start shit im just saying that out of the two behringer products i own i have never had any issues with them and they were priced much better then their competitors.

Mind you if i was playing shows i would invest in something other then behringer, but for being just a hobbyist like myself it does me fine.

a 400w bass head, 4x10 bass cab, 1x15 bass cab and my friends band has a P.A. the head is shot, the two cabs have something beyond my knowledge wrong with them (speakers are shot, and the connections are shot, but even with other speakers/connectors it still doesnt work), and the 1x15 is broken as well. i even gave it to my friend who is an electrician to look at and he has no idea whats wrong. The P.A. is the only thing that works, but sounds horrible. (i guess its good for metal vocals) I've even traded in every piece of the bass stack in for brand new stuff and it still broke within 2-3 jams.

for a hobby-ist i'm sure a behringer combo or the like is fine, but i wouldnt even compare it to brands like orange, vox, marshall etc etc

slay · Post by **slay** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:17 pm

yeah thats enough headaches for one to dislike the company.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:58 am

slay wrote:yeah thats enough headaches for one to dislike the company.

haha yea.

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:22 pm

alright i bought the Valveking 212. I likey alot. i love you wayne

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:41 pm

DBS wrote:hk was suggesting the valveking combo. i have the half-stack and would recommend it

hey im looking for a good starting point here. i could play around with all the settings for an hour. gimme your settings! more importantly, the texture dial on the back. i dont really understand the tube shit

slay · Post by **slay** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:19 pm

does it sound heavy dawdy?

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:32 pm

slay wrote:does it sound heavy dawdy?

so far yeah. i need to make some more tweaks EQ wise, try to dial this thing the way i like. This thing is so fucking loud. 1/4 volume and i was starting to sweat

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:34 pm

this video pretty much sold me on it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aTO0Z-B274

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:01 pm

what did you pay for it?

have any native friends? my buddy buys shit for me sometimes and i don't have to pay taxes

i just throw him a couple of bucks, smoke a joint or give him a couple of pills.

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:30 pm

Dawdy wrote:
DBS wrote:hk was suggesting the valveking combo. i have the half-stack and would recommend it
hey im looking for a good starting point here. i could play around with all the settings for an hour. gimme your settings! more importantly, the texture dial on the back. i dont really understand the tube shit

i don't know what you're looking for, but it took me a long time to find a tone i was happy with. and because i play lots of different styles i end up changing my settings almost daily. if you play metal, the crunch that you get out of the amp will change depending on how loud the amp is. i know this might seem obvious but with the valveking it seemed particularly evident. the louder you go, the crisper the crunch.

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:34 pm

Hunter/Killer wrote:what did you pay for it?

have any native friends? my buddy buys shit for me sometimes and i don't have to pay taxes
i just throw him a couple of bucks, smoke a joint or give him a couple of pills.

$599+tax
he woulnt go any lower since it was already 200 off the regular price

im actually elegible to get a status card. we traced back in our family tree, and my great great great great (you get the point) grandfather was native. My uncle sent away for it and got one. So my dad did, and he never heard back. When he called up a number, it was no longer in service so he just left it at that.

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:34 pm

DBS wrote:the louder you go, the crisper the crunch.

tubes

Dawdy · Post by **Dawdy** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:39 pm

DBS wrote:
Dawdy wrote:
DBS wrote:hk was suggesting the valveking combo. i have the half-stack and would recommend it
hey im looking for a good starting point here. i could play around with all the settings for an hour. gimme your settings! more importantly, the texture dial on the back. i dont really understand the tube shit
i don't know what you're looking for, but it took me a long time to find a tone i was happy with. and because i play lots of different styles i end up changing my settings almost daily. if you play metal, the crunch that you get out of the amp will change depending on how loud the amp is. i know this might seem obvious but with the valveking it seemed particularly evident. the louder you go, the crisper the crunch.

im just going for a metal sound. more specifically, just regular shit like metallica. whats your opinion on the texture setting? do you just leave yours full blast?

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:46 pm

Dawdy wrote:
DBS wrote:
Dawdy wrote:
DBS wrote:hk was suggesting the valveking combo. i have the half-stack and would recommend it
hey im looking for a good starting point here. i could play around with all the settings for an hour. gimme your settings! more importantly, the texture dial on the back. i dont really understand the tube shit
i don't know what you're looking for, but it took me a long time to find a tone i was happy with. and because i play lots of different styles i end up changing my settings almost daily. if you play metal, the crunch that you get out of the amp will change depending on how loud the amp is. i know this might seem obvious but with the valveking it seemed particularly evident. the louder you go, the crisper the crunch.
im just going for a metal sound. more specifically, just regular shit like metallica. whats your opinion on the texture setting? do you just leave yours full blast?

i have it set to about 7 o clock. i also found that even if you have a really basic 'metal' set-up on the eq (high gain / bass / treble, low mids) the presence and resonance settings can be employed to drastically alter the kind of tone you want. fucking with those alone will give you plenty of options.

Hunter/Killer · Post by **Hunter/Killer** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:50 pm

Dawdy wrote:
Hunter/Killer wrote:what did you pay for it?

have any native friends? my buddy buys shit for me sometimes and i don't have to pay taxes
i just throw him a couple of bucks, smoke a joint or give him a couple of pills.
$599+tax
he woulnt go any lower since it was already 200 off the regular price

im actually elegible to get a status card. we traced back in our family tree, and my great great great great (you get the point) grandfather was native. My uncle sent away for it and got one. So my dad did, and he never heard back. When he called up a number, it was no longer in service so he just left it at that.

He really hates those people who trace back generations. He calls them Tonto Lesveque's

But he is cool with buying me shit, it's not like i do it all the time. i get the ocasional electronic purchase or guitar.
he actually offered and obviously im not going to refuse.