Panterachat

Am I the only one that thinks Pantera songs use some retarded tuning? Whenever I try to play their songs, my bass always seems out of tune Any other band is OK, it's just Pantera.


halp

Pantera was notorius for "reference tuning".

Meaning that, where ever the E-string was, they tuned the rest of the guitar to it. Usually somewhere in between E and D. Alot of older Van Halen tunes are the same way.

Cool. Never heard of that.

Didnt they tune a few Hz off of 440? Im sure it was something like that.

Metallash wrote:Didnt they tune a few Hz off of 440? Im sure it was something like that.

I don't think it was an exact measure of Hz, it varies from song to song.

Metallash wrote:Didnt they tune a few Hz off of 440? Im sure it was something like that.

yea a lot of bands slip up and change the hz on tuners etc

Yeah, their tunings on a lot of albums are just off from actual pitch. the annoying thing is that tuning even changed from album to album. It makes me wonder if they adjusted the speed of some of their recordings slightly for editing purposes or to help Phil sound in tune.

Pfl?yd wrote:Yeah, their tunings on a lot of albums are just off from actual pitch. the annoying thing is that tuning even changed from album to album. It makes me wonder if they adjusted the speed of some of their recordings slightly for editing purposes or to help Phil sound in tune.

didn't they admit to recording an entire album by only recording sections that were different and then copy and pasting them?

Pfl?yd wrote:Yeah, their tunings on a lot of albums are just off from actual pitch. the annoying thing is that tuning even changed from album to album. It makes me wonder if they adjusted the speed of some of their recordings slightly for editing purposes or to help Phil sound in tune.

As well as song to song. Especially CFH.

hippy wrote:

Pfl?yd wrote:Yeah, their tunings on a lot of albums are just off from actual pitch. the annoying thing is that tuning even changed from album to album. It makes me wonder if they adjusted the speed of some of their recordings slightly for editing purposes or to help Phil sound in tune.

didn't they admit to recording an entire album by only recording sections that were different and then copy and pasting them?

No, I think they have too much deviation from part to part to really do that. I know for a fact Linkin Park (who barely even qualifies as a band) did their entire second album that way. Which is why their already shitty songs sound bland and stale.

I do that if I'm lazy/drunk

Pfl?yd wrote:I know for a fact Linkin Park (who barely even qualifies as a band)

Pantera tuned everything 90 cents below whatever tuning the song was described in. So on the CFH album for example, which was in mostly in "standard", it was really set 90 cents below that.

warhead dime wrote:Pantera tuned everything 90 cents below whatever tuning the song was described in. So on the CFH album for example, which was in mostly in "standard", it was really set 90 cents below that.

I thought it was -40?

hektik wrote:

warhead dime wrote:Pantera tuned everything 90 cents below whatever tuning the song was described in. So on the CFH album for example, which was in mostly in "standard", it was really set 90 cents below that.

I thought it was -40?

inflation, my friend.

Pfl?yd wrote:

hippy wrote:

Pfl?yd wrote:Yeah, their tunings on a lot of albums are just off from actual pitch. the annoying thing is that tuning even changed from album to album. It makes me wonder if they adjusted the speed of some of their recordings slightly for editing purposes or to help Phil sound in tune.

didn't they admit to recording an entire album by only recording sections that were different and then copy and pasting them?

No, I think they have too much deviation from part to part to really do that. I know for a fact Linkin Park (who barely even qualifies as a band) did their entire second album that way. Which is why their already shitty songs sound bland and stale.

Rumor is Metallica just looped Lars's double bass on Dyers Eve because, well, he sucks and couldn't keep it up.

PABassPlayer wrote:

hektik wrote:

warhead dime wrote:Pantera tuned everything 90 cents below whatever tuning the song was described in. So on the CFH album for example, which was in mostly in "standard", it was really set 90 cents below that.

I thought it was -40?

inflation, my friend.

Motorhead wrote:

Pfl?yd wrote:

hippy wrote:

Pfl?yd wrote:Yeah, their tunings on a lot of albums are just off from actual pitch. the annoying thing is that tuning even changed from album to album. It makes me wonder if they adjusted the speed of some of their recordings slightly for editing purposes or to help Phil sound in tune.

didn't they admit to recording an entire album by only recording sections that were different and then copy and pasting them?

No, I think they have too much deviation from part to part to really do that. I know for a fact Linkin Park (who barely even qualifies as a band) did their entire second album that way. Which is why their already shitty songs sound bland and stale.

Rumor is Metallica just looped Lars's double bass on Dyers Eve because, well, he sucks and couldn't keep it up.

Rumor has it Fleming Rasmussen played the drums on the early recordings altogether!

Pfl?yd wrote:

Motorhead wrote:

Pfl?yd wrote:

hippy wrote:

Pfl?yd wrote:Yeah, their tunings on a lot of albums are just off from actual pitch. the annoying thing is that tuning even changed from album to album. It makes me wonder if they adjusted the speed of some of their recordings slightly for editing purposes or to help Phil sound in tune.

didn't they admit to recording an entire album by only recording sections that were different and then copy and pasting them?

No, I think they have too much deviation from part to part to really do that. I know for a fact Linkin Park (who barely even qualifies as a band) did their entire second album that way. Which is why their already shitty songs sound bland and stale.

Rumor is Metallica just looped Lars's double bass on Dyers Eve because, well, he sucks and couldn't keep it up.

Rumor has it Fleming Rasmussen played the drums on the early recordings altogether!

I'd believe it. I never understood how Lars went from mediocre drummer who actually tried to change up his fills, to a guy who uses the same goddamn fills on every song. Money made him lazy is my guess.

Even though I've changed my stance on Death Magnetic, I still hold that the drums on that album are the most boring I've heard out of any band in quite some time. He's doing shit that I would write, and I'm not a drummer.

wtf i always thought it was 1/4 step down from pitch. so just set yir hz to 420 and get hella blazed

long4theblur wrote:Even though I've changed my stance on Death Magnetic, I still hold that the drums on that album are the most boring I've heard out of any band in quite some time. He's doing shit that I would write, and I'm not a drummer.

Lars is the only one that doesn't even try anymore.

Motorhead wrote:

long4theblur wrote:Even though I've changed my stance on Death Magnetic, I still hold that the drums on that album are the most boring I've heard out of any band in quite some time. He's doing shit that I would write, and I'm not a drummer.

Lars is the only one that doesn't even try anymore.

bullshit

the entire band doesn't try any more.

motorhead, you are so retarded it hurts.

i didnt know..

PABassPlayer wrote:

hektik wrote:

warhead dime wrote:Pantera tuned everything 90 cents below whatever tuning the song was described in. So on the CFH album for example, which was in mostly in "standard", it was really set 90 cents below that.

I thought it was -40?

inflation, my friend.

Yeah hektik, 40 is probably right.