Shecter

Big Ben · Post by **Big Ben** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:26 pm

I know Shecters are high quality guitars, but what I want to know is are the less expensive models also superb?

This:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=513104

Is what I'm looking to get, it's fairly cheap I guess, but I was wondering if any of you could attest to the quality/feel of a cheaper Shecter and how well it stands up to the $1,000 ones.

Motorhead · Post by **Motorhead** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:30 pm

I want a Schecter bass

long4theblur · Post by **long4theblur** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:37 pm

I was seriously eyeballing this bad boy until I saw that it only had one pickup

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:50 pm

i'll take a cheapo schecter over a cheapo ibanez/jackson anyday of the week

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:54 pm

I kinda thought 7 strings went out with Korn.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:58 pm

you know korn wasnt the first band to use sevens, right?

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:59 pm

Acid Flashbakc wrote:you know korn wasnt the first band to use sevens, right?

No, seriously? I thought they were luthiers that stumbled across that seventh string.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:04 pm

JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:you know korn wasnt the first band to use sevens, right?
No, seriously? I thought they were luthiers that stumbled across that seventh string.

ok buddy keep making that association. you know how many other bands used sevens along with korn? do you know how many guitarists used sevens in the 80's? keep thinking korn had a trend with them.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:08 pm

Acid Flashbakc wrote:
JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:you know korn wasnt the first band to use sevens, right?
No, seriously? I thought they were luthiers that stumbled across that seventh string.
ok buddy keep making that association. you know how many other bands used sevens along with korn? do you know how many guitarists used sevens in the 80's? keep thinking korn started a trend with them.

Despite the fact that they didn't get popular or were overly mass produced until Korn hit it big.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:22 pm

JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:you know korn wasnt the first band to use sevens, right?
No, seriously? I thought they were luthiers that stumbled across that seventh string.
ok buddy keep making that association. you know how many other bands used sevens along with korn? do you know how many guitarists used sevens in the 80's? keep thinking korn started a trend with them.
Despite the fact that they didn't get popular or were overly mass produced until Korn hit it big.

i actually think they were more popular with the shredders in the 80's playing them.. i actually have only seen 7's in stores like GC/sam ash in the past 6-7 years

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:32 pm

Acid Flashbakc wrote:
JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:you know korn wasnt the first band to use sevens, right?
No, seriously? I thought they were luthiers that stumbled across that seventh string.
ok buddy keep making that association. you know how many other bands used sevens along with korn? do you know how many guitarists used sevens in the 80's? keep thinking korn started a trend with them.
Despite the fact that they didn't get popular or were overly mass produced until Korn hit it big.
i actually think they were more popular with the shredders in the 80's playing them.. i actually have only seen 7's in stores like GC/sam ash in the past 6-7 years

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:43 pm

he's probably right, jj.

and schecters are great guitars

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:49 pm

DBS wrote:he's probably right, jj.

and schecters are great guitars

No, he isn't.
You didn't see the 7 string guitar explode until the detuned korn days hit us.

PABassPlayer · Post by **PABassPlayer** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:01 pm

From what I noticed looking at high end to mid shecters is what type of wood being used for the body, binding and pickups...these (except binding) would be huge contributing factors to sound and tone. I would suggest you play one before you buy.

slay · Post by **slay** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:02 pm

long4theblur wrote:I was seriously eyeballing this bad boy until I saw that it only had one pickup

do you really use the other pickups?

I would buy a guitar with one pick up, I never use the neck pick up.

Also, id imagine that damien 7 plays pretty well for the price.

slay · Post by **slay** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:19 pm

also its spelt Schecter, I always forget the "ch" and just put a "h" aswell.

Pfl?yd · Post by **Pfl?yd** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:23 pm

Motorhead wrote:I want a Schecter bass

I love mine! They sound great.

Three Second Doom · Post by **Three Second Doom** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:29 pm

I have that Damien 7, it's a pretty good guitar for the price. Personally these days I don't get too much use out of it, but that's mostly due to the fact that I've fallen in love with the Tele I got last year thats been my main guitar. 7s are cool to fool around on though, you can come up with some cool chord voicings.

But yeah, definitely a quality guitar if you are going the 7 string route.

croninburg · Post by **croninburg** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:42 pm

What tele do you have?

Kellan · Post by **Kellan** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:35 pm

I have the C-7 Blackjack and 2+ years later I still love playing it every time I pick it up.

DBS · Post by **DBS** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:40 pm

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:41 pm

JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
JesseJames wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:you know korn wasnt the first band to use sevens, right?
No, seriously? I thought they were luthiers that stumbled across that seventh string.
ok buddy keep making that association. you know how many other bands used sevens along with korn? do you know how many guitarists used sevens in the 80's? keep thinking korn started a trend with them.
Despite the fact that they didn't get popular or were overly mass produced until Korn hit it big.
i actually think they were more popular with the shredders in the 80's playing them.. i actually have only seen 7's in stores like GC/sam ash in the past 6-7 years

yes because steve vai's signature ibanez universe model from 89 was used by dream theater morbid angel and korn. korn on the other hand influenced who, adema to use sevens?

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:45 pm

I never said they weren't made stupid. Just that they didn't explode until korn hit it big.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:50 pm

dbs did you put that trem in?

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:52 pm

JesseJames wrote:I never said they weren't made stupid. Just that they didn't explode until korn hit it big.

i know what you said. and they exploded in the 80's, with all of the shredders. not the one band that used them in the nineties. shut up jj.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:56 pm

No they didn't.

Big Ben · Post by **Big Ben** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:59 pm

I got into seven strings from bands like Nevermore and Carcass (I know they don't use 7's)

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:56 am

Acid Flashbakc wrote:
JesseJames wrote:I never said they weren't made stupid. Just that they didn't explode until korn hit it big.
i know what you said. and they exploded in the 80's, with all of the shredders. not the one band that used them in the nineties. shut up jj.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_string_guitar

"In the early 1990s, several other heavy metal guitarists began using seven-string instruments (notably John Petrucci of Dream Theater and Trey Azagthoth and Erik Rutan of Morbid Angel), seeing the possibility for detuned riffing while preserving the full upper range of the guitar for solos. However, the seven-string guitar failed to really catch on at this phase in its development, and the Universe model was discontinued briefly in 1995.

The seven-string guitar became prominent when Korn featured Ibanez Universe guitars on their 1994 debut album. Capitalizing on the massive low end produced by the 7th string (typically a low B). This period marked the highwater point in the popularity of the seven-string guitar, as many manufacturers jumped on the seven string bandwagon that they had previously steered clear of including such "traditional" brands as Fender subsidiary Squier and Gibson subsidiary Epiphone, and manufacturers who had been producing sevens expanded their offerings."

In your face biatch.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:36 am

jesus christ JJ name some bands that copied korn and used 7 strings. dont give me some bullshit online-anyone can edit-cyclopedia, give me some actual evidence that you know shit anything.

edit: actually, don't jj.

long4theblur · Post by **long4theblur** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:31 am

I don't think JJ's claiming Korn was a huge inspiration to anyone there, guy. I think he's just saying they were sold more on a mass scale when they hit it big. Why is that touching such a nerve with you, is it so hard to believe?

long4theblur · Post by **long4theblur** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:31 am

slay wrote:
long4theblur wrote:I was seriously eyeballing this bad boy until I saw that it only had one pickup

do you really use the other pickups?

Yes.

Gnarkiller · Post by **Gnarkiller** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:42 am

DBS wrote:

DUDE put your guitar down fucking Tom morello. I know you dont do super wide stretches or anything

Motorhead · Post by **Motorhead** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:26 am

Pfl?yd wrote:
Motorhead wrote:I want a Schecter bass
I love mine! They sound great.

I like that one

Pfl?yd · Post by **Pfl?yd** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:35 am

Motorhead wrote:
Pfl?yd wrote:
Motorhead wrote:I want a Schecter bass
I love mine! They sound great.

I like that one

You can pick up this model for like $500 now.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:11 pm

long4theblur wrote:I don't think JJ's claiming Korn was a huge inspiration to anyone there, guy. I think he's just saying they were sold more on a mass scale when they hit it big. Why is that touching such a nerve with you, is it so hard to believe?

its called debating something. thats what people do on messageboards.

long4theblur · Post by **long4theblur** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:21 pm

Acid Flashbakc wrote:
long4theblur wrote:I don't think JJ's claiming Korn was a huge inspiration to anyone there, guy. I think he's just saying they were sold more on a mass scale when they hit it big. Why is that touching such a nerve with you, is it so hard to believe?
its called debating something. thats what people do on messageboards.

Well I still think you're failing to understand what he's trying to say.

Acid Flashbakc · Post by **Acid Flashbakc** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:26 pm

long4theblur wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
long4theblur wrote:I don't think JJ's claiming Korn was a huge inspiration to anyone there, guy. I think he's just saying they were sold more on a mass scale when they hit it big. Why is that touching such a nerve with you, is it so hard to believe?
its called debating something. thats what people do on messageboards.
Well I still think you're failing to understand what he's trying to say.

no i get what he's saying. and to a degree i agree that korn did make many a kid know about seven strings. what I'm saying is that there were more made before korn, and they were more popular. it's really just arguing opinions

Motorhead · Post by **Motorhead** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:32 pm

Pfl?yd wrote:
Motorhead wrote:
Pfl?yd wrote:
Motorhead wrote:I want a Schecter bass
I love mine! They sound great.

I like that one
You can pick up this model for like $500 now.

Not bad, I saw a used one for around that price a few months ago.

I should get it

long4theblur · Post by **long4theblur** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:38 pm

Acid Flashbakc wrote:
long4theblur wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
long4theblur wrote:I don't think JJ's claiming Korn was a huge inspiration to anyone there, guy. I think he's just saying they were sold more on a mass scale when they hit it big. Why is that touching such a nerve with you, is it so hard to believe?
its called debating something. thats what people do on messageboards.
Well I still think you're failing to understand what he's trying to say.
no i get what he's saying. and to a degree i agree that korn did make many a kid know about seven strings. what I'm saying is that there were more made before korn, and they were more popular. it's really just arguing opinions

But they weren't more popular, and JJ's posted information to back up his claims. So it's not really a clash of opinions.

JesseJames · Post by **JesseJames** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:47 pm

long4theblur wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
long4theblur wrote:
Acid Flashbakc wrote:
long4theblur wrote:I don't think JJ's claiming Korn was a huge inspiration to anyone there, guy. I think he's just saying they were sold more on a mass scale when they hit it big. Why is that touching such a nerve with you, is it so hard to believe?
its called debating something. thats what people do on messageboards.
Well I still think you're failing to understand what he's trying to say.
no i get what he's saying. and to a degree i agree that korn did make many a kid know about seven strings. what I'm saying is that there were more made before korn, and they were more popular. it's really just arguing opinions
But they weren't more popular, and JJ's posted information to back up his claims. So it's not really a clash of opinions.

Exactly, and if they were more popular before then, why were the universe's discontinued in 1995 due to poor sales?
I'm not saying Korn made them or anything else, or that they didn't exist before Korn. All I am saying is that they exploded after Korn. Which not only do I just remember from living back then and being a guitar player, but is also backed up by sources such as I cited.