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I'm thinking about have a custom relic bass made...

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:31 pm
by PABassPlayer
There are a few companies that do these, like Nash, Bill Rowe, K-line and Axetreme Creations.

Does anyone know of any other companies I can look into, or any good or bad feedback?
So far, the best est. I got was $1600.00 (1500.00, and 100.00 for the 2 finishes)

What I'm thinking is a relic 59 P-bass and after some research, I found out that in 59 fender gave all their basses a three tone burst finish. If some called and wanted a custom color (I'm thinking olympic white) they would just shoot it over top the 3 tone finish. As they wore, the 3 tone would show though the white, and the white would "antique" to an off white.
The 59 also had a "c shaped" thick neck and stainless jumbo frets.
Kind of like this...
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But relic'd and aged like this...(but the burst would show through)
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Also, while I'm a huge fan of maple fretboards, the 59 was not offered with it, so I would get the rosewood with clay dots.

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:33 pm
by JesseJames
If you were paying to have it made just for you, why wouldn't you get the actual fretboard you wanted?

EDIT: I think relic guitars look cool, but paying to have someone sand it and hit it with a chain and go leave a few parts out in the rain doesn't warrant the huge hike in price.

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:34 pm
by PABassPlayer
I'm trying to keep it as authentic for the year as possible.

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:37 pm
by JesseJames
Cool. :tup:

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:11 pm
by Motorhead
That looks a lot like the SX basses actually. Except those are mad cheap.

I wish I had never gotten rid of my Ibanez Ergodyne

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:16 pm
by PABassPlayer
Motorhead wrote:That looks a lot like the SX basses actually. Except those are mad cheap.

I wish I had never gotten rid of my Ibanez Ergodyne

Your comments, opinions and knowledge really have no place in this thread. You wouldn't know a quality instrument if I bashed you over the skull with it.

SX? are you retarded?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:28 pm
by JesseJames
PABassPlayer wrote:
Motorhead wrote:That looks a lot like the SX basses actually. Except those are mad cheap.

I wish I had never gotten rid of my Ibanez Ergodyne

Your comments, opinions and knowledge really have no place in this thread. You wouldn't know a quality instrument if I bashed you over the skull with it.

SX? are you retarded?
:lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:38 pm
by long4theblur
JesseJames wrote:
PABassPlayer wrote:
Motorhead wrote:That looks a lot like the SX basses actually. Except those are mad cheap.

I wish I had never gotten rid of my Ibanez Ergodyne

Your comments, opinions and knowledge really have no place in this thread. You wouldn't know a quality instrument if I bashed you over the skull with it.

SX? are you retarded?
:lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:02 pm
by slay
whats up with that chrome piece? some sort of hand rest?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:17 pm
by Acid Flashbakc
yea thats a thumb rest thing...


i never understood why people did the "relic" thing. its like paying for a guitar that looks like it got fucked up. i dunno i like wearing in my own jeans i guess. :?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:24 am
by CFH Eternal
If you want to make it relic'd, just drop your car keys on the body from a distance.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:09 pm
by Motorhead
PABassPlayer wrote:
Motorhead wrote:That looks a lot like the SX basses actually. Except those are mad cheap.

I wish I had never gotten rid of my Ibanez Ergodyne

Your comments, opinions and knowledge really have no place in this thread. You wouldn't know a quality instrument if I bashed you over the skull with it.

SX? are you retarded?
No because I never played :roll:

I said it LOOKS LIKE an SX you fat bastard. I wasn't comparing quality.

Jesus christ people here get fucking dumber by the day

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:50 pm
by JesseJames
you are seriously a moron.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:58 pm
by Motorhead
JesseJames wrote:you are seriously a moron.
Not. I compared the look of a bass to a particular SX I had seen recently. I was never comparing the quality, I know how low-end the SX basses are.

But you just had to respond huh? How do you live when I don't post? Christ :lol:

Either way, shut up JJ and stop following me around.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:17 pm
by JesseJames
Now that your stupid tirade is done with. Ask yourself which came first, the SX bass or the fender.
After that realize which one really in fact looks like the other.
Stupid.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:24 pm
by Motorhead
JesseJames wrote:Now that your stupid tirade is done with. Ask yourself which came first, the SX bass or the fender.
After that realize which one really in fact looks like the other.
Stupid.
That's not even fucking relevant :lll:

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:27 pm
by JesseJames
Yeah, because you didn't compare it to an SX bass or anything.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:33 pm
by slay
about this relic thing, I personally would never pay for a bass that looks like it has been neglected.


The first one looks nice though

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:36 pm
by JesseJames
slay wrote:about this relic thing, I personally would never pay for a bass that looks like it has been neglected.


The first one looks nice though
That's what I was saying, I don't really care for a beat up looking guitar.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:38 pm
by slay
JesseJames wrote:
slay wrote:about this relic thing, I personally would never pay for a bass that looks like it has been neglected.


The first one looks nice though
That's what I was saying, I don't really care for a beat up looking guitar.
agreed :tup:

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:30 am
by Motorhead
JesseJames wrote:Yeah, because you didn't compare it to an SX bass or anything.
What do you not get? Seriously, you're too stubborn or too stupid....I can't figure it out.

It LOOKS like an SX I was looking at. Jesus tittyfucking christ, you and PABasstardo are like peas in a pod.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:08 am
by PABassPlayer
Motorhead wrote:
JesseJames wrote:Yeah, because you didn't compare it to an SX bass or anything.
What do you not get? Seriously, you're too stubborn or too stupid....I can't figure it out.

It LOOKS like an SX I was looking at. Jesus tittyfucking christ, you and PABasstardo are like peas in a pod.
Fender has been making the P & J basses since 1951.
I'm going to try something different Motorhead, rather than criticize, I will attempt to educate. Here is the history of the Fender Precision (or "P") bass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Precision_Bass

As far as why you would want "the relic" look...it's just a look or "charactor" that shows the nostalgic look of what most '59's would look like now. My other options would be play my current P basses for 20 years untill they wear like that or buy a '59 for between 15K to 60K, and while I make a decent living, I'm not willing to shell out that kind of $$$.

I own 4 pristine fender bases (2 p's and 2 j's) and now I want to add a relic to the collection.

I am curious to what Pfloyds opinion is on this. Btw, Pfloyd, thanks for the advice, I am playing the song to a "T" now.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:17 am
by PABassPlayer
Motorhead wrote:
JesseJames wrote:Yeah, because you didn't compare it to an SX bass or anything.
What do you not get? Seriously, you're too stubborn or too stupid....I can't figure it out.

It LOOKS like an SX I was looking at. Jesus tittyfucking christ, you and PABasstardo are like peas in a pod.
Sorry, I have to say this.
I was getting a Toys R Us gift card the other day for a a kids birthday party my kid is going to. While milling about the store I saw they sell SX guitars and basses....so my question to you is, where exactly do you shop for your musical gear?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:00 pm
by Motorhead
PABassPlayer wrote:
Motorhead wrote:
JesseJames wrote:Yeah, because you didn't compare it to an SX bass or anything.
What do you not get? Seriously, you're too stubborn or too stupid....I can't figure it out.

It LOOKS like an SX I was looking at. Jesus tittyfucking christ, you and PABasstardo are like peas in a pod.
Sorry, I have to say this.
I was getting a Toys R Us gift card the other day for a a kids birthday party my kid is going to. While milling about the store I saw they sell SX guitars and basses....so my question to you is, where exactly do you shop for your musical gear?
Daddy's Junky Music, Guitar Center and a few other local places.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:08 pm
by PABassPlayer
Motorhead wrote:
PABassPlayer wrote:
Motorhead wrote:
JesseJames wrote:Yeah, because you didn't compare it to an SX bass or anything.
What do you not get? Seriously, you're too stubborn or too stupid....I can't figure it out.

It LOOKS like an SX I was looking at. Jesus tittyfucking christ, you and PABasstardo are like peas in a pod.
Sorry, I have to say this.
I was getting a Toys R Us gift card the other day for a a kids birthday party my kid is going to. While milling about the store I saw they sell SX guitars and basses....so my question to you is, where exactly do you shop for your musical gear?
Daddy's Junky Music, Guitar Center and a few other local places.

DJM and Guitar Center are only about a 1/4 step above Toys R Us...hate to say. Both stores cater to beginner to medium musicians. They place 10 to 15 quality (over priced) guitars amongst countless pieces of shit and get the occasional numb nuts with more money than talent to buy a high end PRS, US Strat or an actual Jackson Custom shop. As far as high end basses, the only quality they sell is/was Warwick, which I heard they soon won't be carrying anymore. Out of the 4 GC's I've been to in the Philly/Jersey area, not one carried an American made Fender bass, but had racks and racks of Mexicans and a few Jap. I won't even get into the mindless failed musicians that they employ that have about as much knowledge about the instruments as......well,.......you do Motorhead.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:48 pm
by Motorhead
PABassPlayer wrote:
Motorhead wrote:
PABassPlayer wrote:
Motorhead wrote:
JesseJames wrote:Yeah, because you didn't compare it to an SX bass or anything.
What do you not get? Seriously, you're too stubborn or too stupid....I can't figure it out.

It LOOKS like an SX I was looking at. Jesus tittyfucking christ, you and PABasstardo are like peas in a pod.
Sorry, I have to say this.
I was getting a Toys R Us gift card the other day for a a kids birthday party my kid is going to. While milling about the store I saw they sell SX guitars and basses....so my question to you is, where exactly do you shop for your musical gear?
Daddy's Junky Music, Guitar Center and a few other local places.

DJM and Guitar Center are only about a 1/4 step above Toys R Us...hate to say. Both stores cater to beginner to medium musicians. They place 10 to 15 quality (over priced) guitars amongst countless pieces of shit and get the occasional numb nuts with more money than talent to buy a high end PRS, US Strat or an actual Jackson Custom shop. As far as high end basses, the only quality they sell is/was Warwick, which I heard they soon won't be carrying anymore. Out of the 4 GC's I've been to in the Philly/Jersey area, not one carried an American made Fender bass, but had racks and racks of Mexicans and a few Jap. I won't even get into the mindless failed musicians that they employ that have about as much knowledge about the instruments as......well,.......you do Motorhead.
Wow....just wow. :lol: This is too funny.

you're basically trying to say I'm saying I'm an expert musician, which I've never said. I do know what quality instruments are, I've had to look through many, at many, many different stores.


Not to mention you just assumed those are the only two places I know. Ever heard of local stores or the internet? There's a high end store near me that sells American fender's, Jap fenders, Rickenbackers, etc. etc.

So get off your high horse, stop assuming what I'm saying and move on. All because I said it LOOKED like an SX I saw. You're senile.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:05 pm
by JesseJames
No, you're stupid because you said it looks like an sx, not vice versa. not to mention, when someone is talking about getting a high end model you compare it to a bargain basement cheapie guitar.
It's like if someone asked if they should get a certain PRS and I said "wow that looks like a hondo guitar"
I know you probably do get this, and understand how you're wrong. But I also realize you think that if you keep with your original dumb statement that you think we all look dumb in relation for one of your many reasons, you didn't mean it, we didn't understand it, etc.... and it just isn't true.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:20 pm
by Three Second Doom
I really never equated American made or higher priced instruments to higher quality. I've played Squire Strats that play and sound just as good as any $700+ plus guitars I've played. I really liked every MIM Tele I tried before landing on my Highway 1. That being said... from what I've seen of "SX" guitars/basses, they may be an exception. :lol:

On topic with this thread, I love the look of relics... wouldn't pay extra for it to be a bit beat up, but I think a few dents and the general "worn in" look give the guitar character.

Also, this Motorhead bullshit needs to stay out of the musicians forum.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:57 pm
by croninburg
I think the Japanese Fenders are basically on par with the American models. You can get mexican ones that stand up to either, but not many because the quality control isn't so good. I'm pretty sure that they're all made with more or less the same parts anyway..

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:40 pm
by Hunter/Killer
I'm dumb and im not reading the thread. I've always seen those metal coverings over the strings, what are they used for.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:04 pm
by JesseJames
bling nigger

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:07 pm
by slay
Hunter/Killer wrote:I'm dumb and im not reading the thread. I've always seen those metal coverings over the strings, what are they used for.
apparently a thumb/hand rest.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:33 pm
by Motorhead
JesseJames wrote:No, you're stupid because you said it looks like an sx, not vice versa. not to mention, when someone is talking about getting a high end model you compare it to a bargain basement cheapie guitar.
It's like if someone asked if they should get a certain PRS and I said "wow that looks like a hondo guitar"
I know you probably do get this, and understand how you're wrong. But I also realize you think that if you keep with your original dumb statement that you think we all look dumb in relation for one of your many reasons, you didn't mean it, we didn't understand it, etc.... and it just isn't true.
You're the biggest fucking retard. You're arguing goddamn semantics, saying that looks like an SX I saw isn't any different than saying the SX looks like it. I'm making a comparison on LOOK, not which came first nor the quality.

Does anyone believe this guy? No one can be this stupid.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:43 am
by PABassPlayer
Three Second Doom wrote:I really never equated American made or higher priced instruments to higher quality. I've played Squire Strats that play and sound just as good as any $700+ plus guitars I've played. I really liked every MIM Tele I tried before landing on my Highway 1. That being said... from what I've seen of "SX" guitars/basses, they may be an exception. :lol:

Motorhead needs to stay out of the musicians forum.
Fixed...

I've bought one Jap Fender (the Geddy Lee Jazz Signature) and I have to say it didn't come close to my US Jazz in feel, sound or quality. I also bought a $250.00 ESP LTD Les paul bass for a home practice piece and have found that I like it alot, I'd probably play out with it. So yeah, some of the lower end basses are ok, but there is a definate difference in the US made ones.

On a side note: I have owned a jackson kelly bass and 2 gibson basses (one was a $1800.00 Tjhunderbird) and I flipped them all within 2 weeks. Horrible.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:16 pm
by Motorhead
PABassPlayer wrote:
Three Second Doom wrote:I really never equated American made or higher priced instruments to higher quality. I've played Squire Strats that play and sound just as good as any $700+ plus guitars I've played. I really liked every MIM Tele I tried before landing on my Highway 1. That being said... from what I've seen of "SX" guitars/basses, they may be an exception. :lol:

Motorhead needs to stay out of the musicians forum.
Fixed...

I've bought one Jap Fender (the Geddy Lee Jazz Signature) and I have to say it didn't come close to my US Jazz in feel, sound or quality. I also bought a $250.00 ESP LTD Les paul bass for a home practice piece and have found that I like it alot, I'd probably play out with it. So yeah, some of the lower end basses are ok, but there is a definate difference in the US made ones.

On a side note: I have owned a jackson kelly bass and 2 gibson basses (one was a $1800.00 Tjhunderbird) and I flipped them all within 2 weeks. Horrible.
As someone who enjoys playing music on a variety of instruments, I think I'll stay in this forum.

Not everyone needs 2,000 dollar bases guy. You went off for no reason on that one, I was just comparing how it LOOKS. Doesn't matter which came first, and I know the quality difference, it wasn't ever about that.

I mean SX's cost 100 fucking dollars :lol: So you need to relax, stop starting shit over nothing and deal with me being here!

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:03 pm
by long4theblur
Motorhead wrote:As someone who enjoys playing music on a variety of instruments
Such as?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:12 pm
by Motorhead
long4theblur wrote:
Motorhead wrote:As someone who enjoys playing music on a variety of instruments
Such as?
Keyboard/Piano, Guitar, Bass and I own a couple woodwinds!

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:41 pm
by JesseJames
Motorhead wrote:
long4theblur wrote:
Motorhead wrote:As someone who enjoys playing music on a variety of instruments
Such as?
Keyboard/Piano, Guitar, Bass and I own a couple woodwinds!
I have no doubt you are a concert skin floutist.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:55 pm
by Motorhead
JesseJames wrote:
Motorhead wrote:
long4theblur wrote:
Motorhead wrote:As someone who enjoys playing music on a variety of instruments
Such as?
Keyboard/Piano, Guitar, Bass and I own a couple woodwinds!
I have no doubt you are a concert skin floutist.
:tup:

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:56 pm
by JesseJames
:lol: