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floyd roses suck massive fucking dick

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:27 pm
by hektik
i decided today i wanted to tune down to standard D. well, after an hour of tuning, re tuning, de tuning, foaming at the mouth in anger, and damn near pissing myself, i decided to slam my guitar on the ground and fuck with it later.

help me adjust my floyd rose, it's on an old piece of shit BC rich warlock, probably a bronze series, or something worse than that. I just wanna go back to E because i can't be arsed to fuck with anything else now

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:58 pm
by Dawdy
you'll have to tighten the springs
tighten the spring screws maybe one turn, and then tune your strings. once you get them all in tune, if the trem is still not sitting parallel to the body, loosen off the strings a bit, and tighten the springs some more. keep playing until you get the strings in tune and the trem is sitting parellel to the body

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:59 pm
by Dawdy
also, if the trem is being pulled back into the body, the springs are too tight, loosen the screws

know what i mean?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:06 pm
by hektik
the screws on the floyd?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:08 pm
by The Doctor
Not worth it. Sell it and buy something without a lock.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:11 pm
by hektik
The Doctor wrote:Not worth it. Sell it and buy something without a lock.
i bought the guitar for 20 bucks. it's worth it.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:14 pm
by hektik
Dawdy wrote:you'll have to tighten the springs
tighten the spring screws maybe one turn, and then tune your strings. once you get them all in tune, if the trem is still not sitting parallel to the body, loosen off the strings a bit, and tighten the springs some more. keep playing until you get the strings in tune and the trem is sitting parellel to the body
and i can never get any string in tune without another one going out wildly! help me dawdy!

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:39 pm
by hektik
nevermind folks i broke the guitar in half. i should've taken pics :lol:

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:26 pm
by Pfl?yd
Fixed bridge 4TW!

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:30 pm
by hektik
i enjoy string thru bodies negro. next guit fid i get i'm definetly getting a string thru

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:50 am
by slay
u hate my floyd to.. want another guitar without one :tup:

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:08 am
by The Doctor
I'm getting a Gibson. Fuck locks. :tdown:

Re: floyd roses suck massive fucking dick

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:58 am
by PABassPlayer
hektik wrote:i decided today i wanted to tune down to standard D. well, after an hour of tuning, re tuning, de tuning, foaming at the mouth in anger, and damn near pissing myself, i decided to slam my guitar on the ground and fuck with it later.

help me adjust my floyd rose, it's on an old piece of shit BC rich warlock, probably a bronze series, or something worse than that. I just wanna go back to E because i can't be arsed to fuck with anything else now
Buy another guitar.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:42 am
by Kellan
Even though it's too late:

You want the bridge as parallel to the body as you can get it. So basically you get it parallel by tightening or loosening the screws in the back, tune, it's fucked up again, tighten/loosen, tune, repeat processes; and eventually shit starts to pan out. Then you adjust intonation on the saddles.

Floyd Roses pretty much suck. Even though I used to do trem shit 24/7 when I would play on my Jackson with a FR; while I'm playing my string-through Schecter, I only miss that about .1% of the time. Honestly. They're so not worth the hassle.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:45 am
by The Doctor
Speaking of guitars with annoying Floyd Rose trems...

I'm about to eBay my ESP LTD M350 if anyone is interested in it. I'll probably post a link to the auction when I do it.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:18 am
by BassPhemy
My first guitar was a Squire Strat with a liscenced Floyd on it. Eventually I just bolted the trem onto the body so I wouldn't have to fuck with it but I undid it when I refinished my guitar recently. I tried to tune down a step and then I remembered what a hassle it is and just went back to E.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:20 am
by The Doctor
Unless you stick to one tuning, they're shit. You'd think they'd design them to go back and forth at least a step with a little ease.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:26 am
by PABassPlayer
string tension vs. spring tension = :tdown:

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:27 am
by The Doctor
Springs = :tdown:

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:25 pm
by morgbite
mate, when i first used a floyd rose, it took me 9 straight hours to tune and set up properly.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:49 am
by RandomRussianDude
are you guys amateurs or something? i love floyd rose! it just wouldn't be the same without it. it takes me about 1-2 minutes to get in tune before i start playing. and thanks to the locks it stays in tune a whole lot better than a sans rose guitar. tuning to different keys is another story, but it still only takes 5-10 minutes.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:56 am
by Kellan
I personally don't have a huge problem with them. They're just more hassle than they're worth.

And intonation. Saddle locks/set screws underneath strings at tension = dumbest fucking thing ever.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:04 am
by AoD
put extra strings in and block it with a peice of wood or whatever fits in the crevice between the bridge and the body, tune the strings starting with the little bottom one....

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:22 pm
by The Fear
AoD wrote:put extra strings in and block it with a peice of wood or whatever fits in the crevice between the bridge and the body, tune the strings starting with the little bottom one....
That's what i usually do.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:40 pm
by Gor-Gor
<THe_FeAR> wrote:
AoD wrote:put extra strings in and block it with a peice of wood or whatever fits in the crevice between the bridge and the body, tune the strings starting with the little bottom one....
That's what i usually do.
use a AA battery. its the perfect size. and yea fuck Floyd Rose worst invention for an instrument. keep with the stop-tails

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:03 pm
by The Doctor
A locking bridge system is, in theory, a good idea. But Floyd Rose systems are just too high maintenance. :tdown: That's the problem I have with them.

Although they are handy...

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:22 pm
by BassPhemy
They're cool if you want to wank or do a dive bomb or whatever other worthless non musical crap you have up your sleeve but you can't even tune to drop D without making a project out of it, let alone open D or DADGAD.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:01 pm
by warhead dime
There's pros and cons to the floyd, sure. But to be honest they really aren't that hard to set up and maintain. Adjusting the screws is actually really easy and doesn't take much time at all.

I used to use the floyd for divebombs and all the tricks but then I got bored of that. Usually the only times I use the bar these days is for saxophone bends and smooth vibrato.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:32 pm
by Dimebaggage
hektik wrote:
Dawdy wrote:you'll have to tighten the springs
tighten the spring screws maybe one turn, and then tune your strings. once you get them all in tune, if the trem is still not sitting parallel to the body, loosen off the strings a bit, and tighten the springs some more. keep playing until you get the strings in tune and the trem is sitting parellel to the body
and i can never get any string in tune without another one going out wildly!
i use to have the same problem with mine. such a fucking pain in the ass :tdown: :tdown: :tdown:

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:50 am
by Wrona
I don't see how people can't take 10-15 minutes to set a floyd rose up... i've had problems with a floyd once... it wasn't even locking at the bridge.. i was some ibanez peice of junk... no offence to the ibanez fans but it was total junk!

I don't care for floating floyds anymore for the fact that i'd rather have better sustain with the floyd flat on the body... it's all about the tone baby.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:47 pm
by croninburg
I'm sure that the incredible amount of horribly shit lisenced copies don't do their reputation any favours..

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:00 pm
by hippy
i have too many floyds, but i got used to it.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:13 pm
by Pfl?yd
I used to have a Jackson Kelly and I used the whammy bar once and never used it again. I'll never have a need for a floyd. They're just too much trouble.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:47 pm
by Brandon
which whammy bars are the best

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:52 am
by P.Huff
THE BRIDGE ON A GIBSON IS BEST BRO! I HAVE 2 LES PAULS. ONE TUNED TO STANDARD AND ONE TUNED DOWN LOW FOR CHUGGIN

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:21 am
by warhead dime
croninburg wrote:I'm sure that the incredible amount of horribly shit lisenced copies don't do their reputation any favours..
Definitely.

What's crazy though is the licensed floyd I have on one of my guitars works better than the original Floyd Rose I had installed in one of my others.

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:21 am
by croninburg
warhead dime wrote:
croninburg wrote:I'm sure that the incredible amount of horribly shit lisenced copies don't do their reputation any favours..
Definitely.

What's crazy though is the licensed floyd I have on one of my guitars works better than the original Floyd Rose I had installed in one of my others.
I have the Dime 2ST, Chinese made. The Floyd won't stay in tune for shit :tdown: I have heard good things about some of the licensed units though, i remember someone on here (dead forever?) claiming that the Schaller ones are supposed to be as good or better. Some of the Ibanez ones seem pretty good too, and I like the low profile. I'm definitely sticking with my tele though :lol:

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:57 am
by warhead dime
I just got a telecaster. I love it. The last couple guitars I've bought have been hardtail. Gibson V and Fender Telecaster. First American made guitars I've bought so far as well. I think my telecaster needs different tuners though.

Let me ask you a question. You know that squeal that the tele produces with high volume/distortion. Along with a noise gate, would some foam underneath the strings behind the nut stop that squeal?

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:08 am
by Wrona
warhead dime wrote:I just got a telecaster. I love it. The last couple guitars I've bought have been hardtail. Gibson V and Fender Telecaster. First American made guitars I've bought so far as well. I think my telecaster needs different tuners though.

Let me ask you a question. You know that squeal that the tele produces with high volume/distortion. Along with a noise gate, would some foam underneath the strings behind the nut stop that squeal?
If you don't have any foam at the moment, try using some electrical tape wrapped around the neck/strings and see if that helps.

But i'm thinking it is more likely an electronic / pickup issue.

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:29 am
by croninburg
warhead dime wrote:I just got a telecaster. I love it. The last couple guitars I've bought have been hardtail. Gibson V and Fender Telecaster. First American made guitars I've bought so far as well. I think my telecaster needs different tuners though.

Let me ask you a question. You know that squeal that the tele produces with high volume/distortion. Along with a noise gate, would some foam underneath the strings behind the nut stop that squeal?
I'm afraid I don't know. I don't really use distortion, just overdrive - all single coils hum, but i've only experienced squealing with hi gain settings on my korg. If you want heavy tones, it might be worth getting a set of hot rails for the bridge?