Panterachat

I am wanting to improve from my bog-standard Marshall 4x12. So I am flogging it. I've been looking through various sites and such and there are some interesting cabs.
Mesa Boogie interests me, as does Engl. Hmmm, pricey but worth it?

What I am after is just some opinions... what do you use / why do you use it (over preferance to others) and what makes it better etc.

So just want yer opinions on cabinets - Like what to avoid, what to look for.

Cheers

I use Electric amp, which is the American version of Matamp (the company I believe is based in Huddersfield) which also is a shootoff of Orange. I am one of those believers that the thicker the cabinet, the heavy the tone.
Anyway check out the matamp cabs.
http://www.matamp.co.uk/cabs412.htm

Right looking at getting this 2x12, mainly as a 4x12 is annoying for travelling with and ye got most power through the PA anyway... ish. But yeh, it's an Engl and I've heard they are pretty reliable and awesome. Plus they have V30s in them... which i have heard are great. But not tried them, noone near me stocks Engl.

Any opinions AT ALL!?

http://www.thomann.de/gb/engl_e212vh_gitarrenbox.htm

I dig Avatar cabs.
http://www.avatarspeakers.com/

i hate, and i mean, i can't stand anything having to do w/crate amps

UNGODLIKE wrote:i hate, and i mean, i can't stand anything having to do w/crate amps

3 or 400 watt 4 x 12 Marshall's have never failed me

Bronco wrote:3 or 400 watt 4 x 12 Marshall's have never failed me

What the fuck are you running thru... the amp off of back to the future?

I use the Behringer 412S, with Jensens in it, and think it sounds phenomenal, especially for the price. I actually like the way my Peavey XXX sounds through it more than through the 1960A I played it through. Depends on the sounds you're going for, though.

I'll be looking for a new cab soon. I know most Mesa owner's go with Mesa cabs, but I haven't heard anything good about the Oversized Cabs (they get muddy at high volumes...sounds way too scooped...etc). I've played through one once, but that was through the PA, and while it sounded good, I wanted to hear it by itself.

Anyways, I'm thinkin about getting the 2x12 Mesa Cab. I used to play a solidstate Trace Elliot thru 2 15'inch EV speakers... and it sounded killer. Anyone out there use EV's?

washburnML wrote:

UNGODLIKE wrote:i hate, and i mean, i can't stand anything having to do w/crate amps

Yeah Crate ams suck big time



Marshall,Randall Rule

washburnML wrote:

UNGODLIKE wrote:i hate, and i mean, i can't stand anything having to do w/crate amps

Yeah Crate ams suck big time



Marshall,Randall Rule

Marshall Randall Mesa Boogie and Rivera Rule!!!!!!

Hero-Of-The-Day wrote:Marshall Randall Mesa Boogie and Rivera Rule!!!!!!

cant forget line 6 and randall

You two shut up.

Anyway, thicker, and more importantly a sturdier cabinet is going to give you a better and thicker tone.
Less cab resonance/flexing = less tone and volume wasted due to energy being consumed/canceled by the flexing of a cabinet with weak structural integrity.
Get a good set of speakers in a fucking SOLID as shit cab, and you'll be more than pleased.
This principle is applicable to all audio reproduction endeavors.

Kellan wrote:Anyway, thicker, and more importantly a sturdier cabinet is going to give you a better and thicker tone.
Less cab resonance/flexing = less tone and volume wasted due to energy being consumed/canceled by the flexing of a cabinet with weak structural integrity.
Get a good set of speakers in a fucking SOLID as shit cab, and you'll be more than pleased.
This principle is applicable to all audio reproduction endeavors.

sounds good

Kellan wrote:You two shut up

Never!

Nevermore is cool, kellan

washburn, stop trying to act like this hardass your not

CliffandJason-BASS wrote:washburn, stop trying to act like this hardass your not

because a called you captain obvious you are trying to make me look stupid but you are just embarrasing yourself so STFU

One of my cabs is a homemade deal with aluminum car audio speakers in it.

CliffandJason-BASS wrote:washburn, stop trying to act like this hardass your not

you quit trying to look like a hardass by trying to put me in my place

This forum lately has been like two retards fighting over a dead caterpillar. Shut up.

Pflöyd wrote:One of my cabs is a homemade deal with aluminum car audio speakers in it.

Honestly, if you get good tone out of it; then that's all that matters.

Kellan wrote:You two shut up.

Anyway, thicker, and more importantly a sturdier cabinet is going to give you a better and thicker tone.
Less cab resonance/flexing = less tone and volume wasted due to energy being consumed/canceled by the flexing of a cabinet with weak structural integrity.
Get a good set of speakers in a fucking SOLID as shit cab, and you'll be more than pleased.
This principle is applicable to all audio reproduction endeavors.

Cheers for the advice, I'll def. keep it in mind.

5axisOfEvil wrote:I dig Avatar cabs.
http://www.avatarspeakers.com/

Avatar's look like they were just pulled from a 1970s flea market.

Jefferino wrote:

5axisOfEvil wrote:I dig Avatar cabs.
http://www.avatarspeakers.com/

Avatar's look like they were just pulled from a 1970s flea market.

They sound awesome.. looks dont mean alot.
The 2X12 custom I have with the silver fender front looks great!
Its a monster with my HotRod Deville.

Also, Vader cabs rule. Good for chunky, heavy tones.

I dont think you can lose with Boogie cabs. Bogner makes good cabs too I hear.

soulburn wrote:I'll be looking for a new cab soon. I know most Mesa owner's go with Mesa cabs, but I haven't heard anything good about the Oversized Cabs (they get muddy at high volumes...sounds way too scooped...etc). I've played through one once, but that was through the PA, and while it sounded good, I wanted to hear it by itself.

Anyways, I'm thinkin about getting the 2x12 Mesa Cab. I used to play a solidstate Trace Elliot thru 2 15'inch EV speakers... and it sounded killer. Anyone out there use EV's?

Here's some clips of a Krank through a few cabs.

Small Mesa cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... EA24BDB519

Krank cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 600240E3D7

Oversized Mesa cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 350C969F2F

What do you guys thing of this cab?: http://longisland.craigslist.org/msg/316668871.html

I have a peavey valveking head (100 watts) and I'm looking for something kind of versatile. I don't know too much about cabinets/speakers and all that stuff.

LionsDen wrote:I dont think you can lose with Boogie cabs. Bogner makes good cabs too I hear.

soulburn wrote:I'll be looking for a new cab soon. I know most Mesa owner's go with Mesa cabs, but I haven't heard anything good about the Oversized Cabs (they get muddy at high volumes...sounds way too scooped...etc). I've played through one once, but that was through the PA, and while it sounded good, I wanted to hear it by itself.

Anyways, I'm thinkin about getting the 2x12 Mesa Cab. I used to play a solidstate Trace Elliot thru 2 15'inch EV speakers... and it sounded killer. Anyone out there use EV's?

Here's some clips of a Krank through a few cabs.

Small Mesa cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... EA24BDB519

Krank cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 600240E3D7

Oversized Mesa cab.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 350C969F2F

That's a really good comparison. Cheers for that.

Is that you who recorded those? If so, how did you record them (What did ye use etc)

i'm purchasing a new half stack soon. any recommendations? (spending between £500-£800 which i think is about $1000-$1500)

Mesa cabs = overrated

DBS wrote:i'm purchasing a new half stack soon. any recommendations? (spending between £500-£800 which i think is about $1000-$1500)

What kind of style do you play?

Ben wrote:Mesa cabs = overrated

everything can be overated..especially when not set up correctly.

Ben wrote:

DBS wrote:i'm purchasing a new half stack soon. any recommendations? (spending between £500-£800 which i think is about $1000-$1500)

What kind of style do you play?

in practice its all styles. but performance-wise i only play metal and so i'd like an amp which pumps out as much high quality gain as possible.

DeathSion wrote:

Ben wrote:Mesa cabs = overrated

everything can be overated..especially when not set up correctly.

True, but everyone thinks Mesas are the best amps/cabs/etc ever made, which is just not true.

Lando Griffin wrote:What do you guys thing of this cab?: http://longisland.craigslist.org/msg/316668871.html

I have a peavey valveking head (100 watts) and I'm looking for something kind of versatile. I don't know too much about cabinets/speakers and all that stuff.

Penny for your thoughts!!!...or something

o yeah

for real how do i change this cream puff thing