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Set thru vs neck thru construction

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:24 pm
by Hiran
So I'm looking into getting a LTD MH400 NT; 24 frets, EMG 81/85 active pickups but the set up of the neck is set thru and I'm wondering how this compares to neck thru set up? The MH-250 NT is a neck thru but it doesn't have the EMG 81/85 pick ups which I want. Can anyone help me out?

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:47 pm
by The Doctor
Some people say a neck-thru has better sound and note sustain than a set neck or a bolt on.

I have an M350, which is similar to the MH400 except it has a reverse headstock, cheaper pickups, and a single coil at the mid position. It's a great middle of the road guitar. :tup:

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:22 pm
by Hunter/Killer
unless you're a pro and make money playing guitar this shouldn't be much of an issue. neck thru is said to have more sustaine.

try out both and buy which ever you're more comfortable with; both feel and price

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:45 pm
by XYSATAN
Ihave a neck-thru Mh-250nt , and the sustain is better then set thru My H-1000 .

Here's why a neck thru is better also .

set-thru

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Neck-thru,

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Better access to upper frets . I like them both, but I use the neck-thru more !

I should say the MH-400 is real good bang for the buck , got all the extras and is one fine axe !

I have a MH-1000 coming , also nice axe ! :)

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:11 am
by Faltzar
Neck thru is a bit more pricey but its worth it

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:31 pm
by Bronco
I like the neck thrus, they got a better resonance or something.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:59 pm
by hippy
Bronco wrote:I like the neck thrus, they got a better resonance or something.
yeah or something

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:06 pm
by PABassPlayer
Bronco wrote:I like the neck thrus, they got a better resonance or something.
saying "I know nothing about this" would have made you appear smarter.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:14 pm
by Bronco
I've only owned neck thru's.

I try really hard to be smrter, but I cant even use spell check prooperliy.

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:26 pm
by Bronco
The neck thru's that I've built seem to sound better
I don't seem to have the knack for the bolt ons

This novilty guitar for a friend is going to be one
heavy piece of maple. Gonna get a pro to mill the neck slot
and mount it.

The head stock is either gonna be 'OFF' or 'WAD'
He's gonna want a few different necks to switch it up.


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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:34 pm
by PABassPlayer
please stop, your making yourself look like you have the downs.

oh, and your mom is gonna be pissed when she finds out what you did to the coffee table!

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:36 pm
by Bronco
thanks for the tip

I might use her wooden leg for the neck!

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Here is a concept I wanna try - deep pocket set thru

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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:07 am
by whitemike
Sounds like an extra 10lbs of bullshit to me.

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:09 am
by dead forever
Ya, rly. Just get a neck thru and save yourself the hassle.

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:51 am
by Bronco
I would have rather designed it as a neck thru.
But he wants to be able to change necks.
He thinks he'll just use it for the last encore of the night.

I only build 1 or 2 guits a year. otherwise I build utility trailers
for cars and light trucks.
I use the CNC machines at work to makes any
shape I want, at no charge. Gives me the flexibility to
design any custom guitar or what ever, to the customers wishes.

I don't argue with the customer. Give them what they want
and accept payment. Can't argue with that.

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:10 pm
by PABassPlayer
Bronco wrote:I would have rather designed it as a neck thru.
But he wants to be able to change necks.
He thinks he'll just use it for the last encore of the night.

I only build 1 or 2 guits a year. otherwise I build utility trailers
for cars and light trucks.
I use the CNC machines at work to makes any
shape I want, at no charge. Gives me the flexibility to
design any custom guitar or what ever, to the customers wishes.

I don't argue with the customer. Give them what they want
and accept payment. Can't argue with that.
pics now or your full of shit!

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:07 pm
by Bronco
Heres some trailer designs that the guy I assemble the trailers for
has designed.

He also sells the design plans as well for the 'do it your selfer'

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I'm a mold/tool maker by trade.
At Work we use Haas CNC's and the Cad/Cam software we primarily use
are MAstercam X2 with Solids, Unigraphics and Visi-Series. We also
have SolidWorks, but I don't know how to use it that well.

Here is one of the smaller Haas VF3 CNC's. with the 4th axis set up
for casting production.

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What do you do for work and side projects?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:30 pm
by Dimejandro
I work for a box company.. at least I used to. I'm stuck in an island right now.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:34 am
by PABassPlayer
Dimejandro wrote:I work for a box company.. at least I used to. I'm stuck in an island right now.
you should be making guitars out of boxes!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:46 am
by PABassPlayer
Bronco wrote:Heres some trailer designs that the guy I assemble the trailers for
has designed.

He also sells the design plans as well for the 'do it your selfer'

I'm a mold/tool maker by trade.
At Work we use Haas CNC's and the Cad/Cam software we primarily use
are MAstercam X2 with Solids, Unigraphics and Visi-Series. We also
have SolidWorks, but I don't know how to use it that well.

Here is one of the smaller Haas VF3 CNC's. with the 4th axis set up
for casting production.

What do you do for work and side projects?

I have a job at a University in the Chemistry dept.
I don't profess to make guitars, and you talk about all these
guitars you made....I want to see pics of them. Finished projects...that are in use.
A guy that I graduated with makes guitars and has done work for Misfits, Dope and Impaled...at least he has proof of his work. www.jonezguitarz.com

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:56 pm
by Dimejandro
haha i was j/k, i was just saying what john locke of lost would. Actually my father owns a factory that manufactures furniture and shit like that.. I was working there for a while and there's all types of machines and all kinds of wood.. so I can probably build my own guitars.. but i dont know how to, and it sounds like hard work. I really want to make one though! probably an 8 string or something haha.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:40 pm
by Bronco
PA I wasen't implying that you made guitars or was comparing hobbies.

I was just checking ya out, ya seem alright.

I don't make guitars for a living, the FUCK guitar will be the
first one a buddy asked me to build through my bussiness at home.
He can write it off towards his home studio studio.

My kids are getting old enough to give me some extra time for
my own hobbies, finally.

I only made 5 guitars total in a 4 year span, sorry if you expected
more from me. Trust me, only one is really worth bragging about.

I built one guitar for my nephew, and a few for close friends.
I helped my Pops build 5 or 6 Zitars and we made a small harp
years ago.

I'll try to find some pics but I'm not calling around to get them.

When I win the lottery I will own a wood shop only build guitars and
hopefully never work again...lol...yeah right

Dimejandro, if you have the time its not that hard but you need lotsa
of spare time. Fuck, your father has the best place for you to get
started. It you do bolt ons you only get one shot at the neck slot.
I fucked up two bodies that way and rendered them useless.
DAM.

This is cooler than my homemade guitars
My buddy owns this company http://www.maceacherndrums.com
I didn't do any moldwork for the Claws. He went straight
to a hard tool diecaster. My shop does mainly perminant moulds
some proto typing but no high volumes

this guy had one of the first set
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heres my piece of crap kit with a set of claws on it

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And no, i havent met tommy lee, i just own a set of claws

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:43 pm
by Bronco
PA

Your friend is a real deal guitar maker.
Out standing!

I did a crackle coat paint job on my nephews flying V...(what a joke)
Nothing like your buds graphic work...wow


Awsome web site :tup:

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:58 pm
by Dimejandro
thanks Bronco, you're actually convincing me to build one! If you know of any good websites or books that will help me through the creating process could you send them 2 me plz? (that goes to everyone btw!)

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:35 pm
by PABassPlayer
Dimejandro wrote:thanks Bronco, you're actually convincing me to build one! If you know of any good websites or books that will help me through the creating process could you send them 2 me plz? (that goes to everyone btw!)
Contact my friend Allen at Jonez Guitarz, he will give you advice.
his company
www.jonezguitarz.com
or
http://www.myspace.com/jonezguitarz

his band
www.redezra.net
or
http://www.myspace.com/redezraband

here's a guy that has one of Allens custom guitars.
Blue Angel....has his own action figure....LOL
http://www.myspace.com/rockerajf

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:52 pm
by Dimejandro
thanks PA, I'm going to check it out!

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:08 am
by Dimejandro
hah i started gathering information through various electric guitar constructoin sites... turns out I have everything I need sitting on my lap (construction wise)- All i need is to buy the guitar accessories.. and maybe a couple books to facilitate the process. Yay!

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:08 am
by PABassPlayer
If you really want to get simplistic...just buy a Carvin Kit

http://www.carvin.com/products/group.php?CID=KBN
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:26 pm
by dead forever
If I ever have enough money for custom guitars I'll get 2;

The practical one will be a Carvin, the luxury one will be an ESP

:tup:


Keep dreaming....

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:42 pm
by JesseJames
I actually have never played a carvin that I have liked, I have always read and heard good things about them, but absolutely thought everyone that I played was just sub par.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:01 am
by Dimejandro
well i dont know what carvins you've been playing, but let me assure you they are not subpar.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:58 pm
by Bronco
Dimejandro

Been busy, sorry for the late reply.

Check out this site

http://www.mimf.com/

This site has a ton of info for the building guitars

Hope it helps

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:23 am
by Hero-Of-The-Day
Neck thru is better but sometimes fragile.