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The fact that Steve Stevens played with Billy Idol, alot of people never got to see what he's capable of.

List other "hidden treasures" that you know of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8sX_Llt ... ted&search

I saw Queensryche last night. Geoff Tate is just amazing. He delivered 2.5 hours of clean heavy metal vocals. I've never heard live vocals from a metal band done as well as at the show last night. I don't even like Queensryche that much, but damn.

john mayer surprised me.

mayer is pretty badass (as far as pop stars go)...his jams with double trouble are awesome. totally held is own with buddy guy


unsung...

1. robert fripp (king crimson)
2. martin barre (jethro tull)
3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.

Roy Z

soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.

Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.

Shaun Baxter.

PABassPlayer wrote:

soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.

Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.

what albums would you recommend?

Gimp wrote:

PABassPlayer wrote:

soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.

Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.

what albums would you recommend?

the two I have are: "I" and "The True Human Design"

I like them, but I have heard other people say they have better.
anyone?

PABassPlayer wrote:

soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.

Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.

Fredricks side project is also pretty badass

Destroy Erase Improve would be the best recommendation to see if you dig Meshuggah. It has the best of they're old and new sound. Most of the new Meshuggah is a little far out for most. They album came out in like...'95. They were doing the whole 7string thing, but Korn took the attention.

dei fucking crushes. probably my favorite meshuggah album. Fredrik thordendals special defects is amazing though, i suggest you check em out. Morgan Agren plays drums on it, and does a really impressive job, haake does voices on the album haha.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U5YEqmIIdj8

thats fredrick and morgan tearin it up

soulburn wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=U5YEqmIIdj8

thats fredrick and morgan tearin it up

awesome
if anyone ever says they don't understand what syncopation is, show them this video.

I'm gonna have to say that Woody & Pepper from COC might fit in this category. I think COC's such an underrated band, and I rarely find people who are familiar w/ any of their work besides "Clean My Wounds" and "Vote w/ a Bullet". Their albums go so much deeper, and their live shows really kick ass.

There's also (well, used to be) the fucking AWESOME band from Maine called Donnybrook (not the morons from LA who play knuckle-dragging, shaved-ape hardcore). They were...hard to describe. Imagine Tears For Fears got into a trainwreck w/ Faith No More and Tool performed the reconstructive surgery w/ Led Zepplin as the nurse. I'd love to point you to some of their stuff online, but you can't find it anywhere. If you want, PM me and I'll email you an mp3 or two.

Meshuggah are awesome, and the next album that you might want to get after digesting Destroy Erase Improve from them would be Chaosphere.

Fredrik Thordendahl has a rediculously huge influence from jazz-fusion guitarist Allan Holdsworth. Check him out too if you haven't.

if you don't dig Chaosphere, try Contradictions Collapse and None (2 albums sold together). You can definitely tell the transition of Meshuggah, from "swedish metallica with 7strings" to they're more modern sound....

the first track from None starts off with that crazy dial-up sound to pure brutality. check it out...both albums are awesome, though the vox on CC aren't as evolved.

Steve Albini.

soulburn wrote:

unsung...

1. robert fripp (king crimson)

unsung?

Willie Muha

Mick Ronson

i just got stoned and jammed out for awhile and it was so i good i should have made a cd

Daniel gildenlow isn't exactly a "hidden treasure" but goddamn, he's got the best pipes i've ever heard. Also an incredible musician.

ssh wrote:i just got stoned and jammed out for awhile and it was so i good i should have made a cd

did you play a sitar?

PABassPlayer wrote:

Gimp wrote:

PABassPlayer wrote:

soulburn wrote: 3. fredrick thorendal...in my opinion, he and meshuggah perfected the detuned syncopated sound so prevelent in todays metal.

Meshuggah has always amazed me.
It's almost like freestyle Jazz....but done metal.

what albums would you recommend?

the two I have are: "I" and "The True Human Design"

I like them, but I have heard other people say they have better.
anyone?

The riff halfway through "I" is so brutal.

CFH Eternal wrote:Mick Ronson

Ziggy era Bowie with some great Mick Ronson soaring leads, that dude had glam rock star, guitar idol, all figured out. I have yet to check out his solo shit, but i must.

I liked the Bozzio/Levin/Stevens album, all of them are fucking great musicians

axlash wrote:

ssh wrote:i just got stoned and jammed out for awhile and it was so i good i should have made a cd

did you play a sitar?

You don't have to have brown skin to enjoy playing the sitar.

Spoke In The Fuckin wheel wrote:

CFH Eternal wrote:Mick Ronson

Ziggy era Bowie with some great Mick Ronson soaring leads, that dude had glam rock star, guitar idol, all figured out. I have yet to check out his solo shit, but i must.

His solo work is pretty cool stuff. A lot of people don't realize that Randy Rhoads modelled his look and his LP after Mick Ronson.

Piggy D'Amour from Voivod

carcass

gus g

John Christ from Danzig

Vicente Amigo.

Marty Friedman should really get some recognition outside of metal also. Not many people can play like him, not just in technical ability but in note choice. Also his vibrato > everyone else.

Omar

Dimejandro wrote:Daniel gildenlow isn't exactly a "hidden treasure" but goddamn, he's got the best pipes i've ever heard. Also an incredible musician.

Gildenlow

kirk hammett
kurt cobain

tweek wrote:Vicente Amigo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLS-pXwAc4o&NR

i'm starting to get into this style of music. it rules. if anyone disagrees, they can suck a dick.