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Is there a noticeable difference between the two, particularly for metal?

do you mean a 5150 vs. a 5150 II?

I believe the rhythm channel has an EQ for it, if you mean 5150 and the 5150 II.

Just buy whichever is cheaper. I belive the only difference is what tubes came with it from the factory. So i bet if you put the same model/make tubes in each, you wouldnt be able to tell the difference.

hey guy, what's up, i was at your last show in tupelo, mad props


but you need something to combat your other guitarist's amp, cause he was kinda drowning you out at the last show

i say buy whichever is cheaper and looks in the best of shape, i've got friends with BOTH and they sound the same when i plugged my guitar into them.

No difference in sound between the 5150 & 5150II.

The 5150II just has a separate EQ for each channel as apposed to a Low/Mid/High that functions for both clean & lead channels.

A lot of people prefer the 5150II, as the separate EQ obviously allows them to tweak the clean channel to personal taste.

IMO, it's not a big issue. For what it's worth the clean channel sucks anyway. Buy a chorus pedal and stomp that if your using cleans - I find that really helps.

Tweel wrote:hey guy, what's up, i was at your last show in tupelo, mad props


but you need something to combat your other guitarist's amp, cause he was kinda drowning you out at the last show

i say buy whichever is cheaper and looks in the best of shape, i've got friends with BOTH and they sound the same when i plugged my guitar into them.

hey thanks man! you should've come up and said hey. if you come out to the michale graves show in a few weeks, make sure you introduce yourself.

and yeah, my randall doesn't cut it anymore. he's got a 5150 and it's loud as a motherfucker.

but after tomorrow afternoon, I'll be the proud owner of a nice, used 5150 block letter!

i want this amp.

Yes. I have a 5150 II, and I used to have a 5150 back in 1995. My good friend currently has a 5150. They do sound different. On the lead channel, the post EQ sound is nearly identical, but the pre gain EQ is drastically different. The original 5150 has a much fatter distortion. The 5150 II has a thinner, more razorblade like distortion. Its almost sounds like a permanantly engaged wah pedal that's nearly all the way open. I actually prefer the original 5150 a lot better. Trust me, the difference is not small.

Ben wrote:

Tweel wrote:hey guy, what's up, i was at your last show in tupelo, mad props


but you need something to combat your other guitarist's amp, cause he was kinda drowning you out at the last show

i say buy whichever is cheaper and looks in the best of shape, i've got friends with BOTH and they sound the same when i plugged my guitar into them.

hey thanks man! you should've come up and said hey. if you come out to the michale graves show in a few weeks, make sure you introduce yourself.

and yeah, my randall doesn't cut it anymore. he's got a 5150 and it's loud as a motherfucker.

but after tomorrow afternoon, I'll be the proud owner of a nice, used 5150 block letter!

hey, is it the one at the princess theater in columbus? cause that's where i'm going cause it's more of my stomping ground....you guys should do a show there. the new owners want new acts to come and play

nah, it's the one at Dr. Love's in Tupelo.

We might try to make it to Columbus at some point, though; what kind of metal/metalcore/hardcore/whatever scene is there?

i heard the second 5150 sucks worse than the first one. unless you want to sound like cradle of filth and the haunted.

BaptizedBurning wrote:i heard the second 5150 sucks worse than the first one. unless you want to sound like cradle of filth and the haunted.

The 5150 has five 12AX7s'. The 5150II has six 12AX7s' along with separate eq, resonance and presence controls for each channel.

Ben wrote: but after tomorrow afternoon, I'll be the proud owner of a nice, used 5150 block letter!

This is what I have

Actually I wound up getting an XXX, and I fucking love it.

Hey Everyone,

I'm in a band were the other guitarist has a 5150 Series II, and like the guy above, I got a Randall. Actually, its the RG-100 Classic, and from what I've heard, its the re-issue of the amp Dime used for CFH. I have no clue how that's possible, I could be mistaken. Anyways, since the 5150 II is kinda hard to find except on Ebay, do you think the 6505 Plus would compliment the sound of the 5150 II?

Line 6 Pod XT Pro Criminal will do just fine.

Splat88 wrote:Yes. I have a 5150 II, and I used to have a 5150 back in 1995. My good friend currently has a 5150. They do sound different. On the lead channel, the post EQ sound is nearly identical, but the pre gain EQ is drastically different. The original 5150 has a much fatter distortion. The 5150 II has a thinner, more razorblade like distortion. Its almost sounds like a permanantly engaged wah pedal that's nearly all the way open. I actually prefer the original 5150 a lot better. Trust me, the difference is not small.

yep im with you on this one.

The first model just roars that bit more, they tried to hard to 'metal up' the second incarnation and it made the tone thinner.

To be honest they are both good amps, and if you use less gain and more volume your signal wont be compressed and shit sounding.

I've had an original 5150 since about 93. I stopped using it for about 9 years and I'm back to using it.
Why the hell does everyone have such a bad attitude toward it's clean channel? I use it all the time and it sounds great. what do people think it's lacking? Are they putting pencil thin metal guitars through it and expecting it to sound full?