Anyone ever tried Guitar Rig 2 Software?

stoic · Post by **stoic** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:55 pm

if so, what'd you think?

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?home_de

Balls On Parade · Post by **Balls On Parade** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:41 pm

I like NIGR better than Amplitube, mainly because of the way you can combine any number of different speaker cabinet emulators with different mic'ing positions, plus the extra stompboxes are a bonus too, although I wish there were more amp heads to choose from......

But I haven't tried the 2nd version yet, I just have the original...

stoic · Post by **stoic** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:05 am

you get it off the net? what'd the stomp box run you?

Balls On Parade · Post by **Balls On Parade** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:06 am

stoic wrote:you get it off the net? what'd the stomp box run you?

no, the stomp boxes are patches within the program itself, just like the amps, processors, cabinets, etc...you can place them anywhere in the signal chain (within the program), along with other effects, rack or stompbox...and yeah, i got it off of Soulseek with a key code generator, and it installed itself within my recording program...

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:37 pm

search google for Guitar Suite, its free and is modelled in the Marshall JCM900 Amps, sounds alot better than NI Guitar Rig and Amplitube, Record your Guitar clean straight into your Soundcard, then in the tracks plug-ins shove the tubescreamer plug-in in there then add the JCM900 plug-in, quality tone for free

Balls On Parade · Post by **Balls On Parade** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:04 am

Metallash wrote:search google for Guitar Suite, its free and is modelled in the Marshall JCM900 Amps, sounds alot better than NI Guitar Rig and Amplitube, Record your Guitar clean straight into your Soundcard, then in the tracks plug-ins shove the tubescreamer plug-in in there then add the JCM900 plug-in, quality tone for free

that's nice, but sometimes you can't get the effect of the distortion in your playing, so you may play it differently clean than if you had the distortion while playing...that low latency soundcard stuff you hooked me up with a while back really does the trick, man, that ASIO4ALL stuff...so i can play through the PC in pretty much real time...

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:57 am

Balls On Parade wrote:
Metallash wrote:search google for Guitar Suite, its free and is modelled in the Marshall JCM900 Amps, sounds alot better than NI Guitar Rig and Amplitube, Record your Guitar clean straight into your Soundcard, then in the tracks plug-ins shove the tubescreamer plug-in in there then add the JCM900 plug-in, quality tone for free
that's nice, but sometimes you can't get the effect of the distortion in your playing, so you may play it differently clean than if you had the distortion while playing...that low latency soundcard stuff you hooked me up with a while back really does the trick, man, that ASIO4ALL stuff...so i can play through the PC in pretty much real time...

yea you can do that shit through cubase as well, open up cubase, create a new track then add the plug-ins to the track as you normally would while mixing, but then press the monitor button on the track and you will hear the distortion while recording.

stoic · Post by **stoic** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:51 pm

so basically, if you get the guitar rig stuff. you can plug your guitar into your computer and hear most any amp/effects model's sound you dial in(more or less)....but only about as loud as your computer's speakers go?

long4theblur · Post by **long4theblur** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:47 pm

How much does (decent) hardware cost to be able to record directly to your computer? Is the sound quality good?

dead forever · Post by **dead forever** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:23 pm

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croninburg · Post by **croninburg** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:37 pm

long4theblur wrote:How much does (decent) hardware cost to be able to record directly to your computer? Is the sound quality good?

Line 6 Pods will give you a completely professional sound and they go cheap second hand on ebay.

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 11:15 am

croninburg wrote:
long4theblur wrote:How much does (decent) hardware cost to be able to record directly to your computer? Is the sound quality good?
Line 6 Pods will give you a completely professional sound and they go cheap second hand on ebay.

make sure its a Pod XT, the original Pod's are shit.

if you wanted some pretty good hardware and you dont have an amp i'd just get the Pod XT and a decent Soundblaster Soundcard and plug my guitar into the Pod, then plug the Pod into the soundcard on my PC, if you want to mic up your amp and get a pretty decent sound i would get an SM57 Microphone (approx. Â£60/$120), M-Audio Audio Buddy Pre-Amp (approx. $120) and a Soundblaster Audigy 2 Soundcard (approx. $110) and in both cases i would just steal a copy of Cubase SX from a bittorrent site, you can use your onboard soundcard if you want but it just wouldnt sound as "rich" so to speak, but it would still sound pretty decent. i use onboard sound and get pretty good results.

long4theblur · Post by **long4theblur** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:28 pm

Which one are you guys talking about?

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:58 pm

Theres 3 types of Pod Xt's, theres the standard Pod XT which is the red bean shaped one, Pod XT Pro which is a rackmount version which is basically the same but with extra connecters so its better suited for a studio and theres the Pod XT Live which is the pedal board looking thing which is better suited to live use, if you are gonna be using it at home to get some recordings down just buy the standard Pod XT and maybe think about buying the Model Packs for it, especially the Metal one as it gives you a few more amps to choose from including the 5150 model which is probably the best model on the Pod for metal.

long4theblur · Post by **long4theblur** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:13 pm

Metallash

Balls On Parade · Post by **Balls On Parade** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:07 pm

I'm not familiar with those Line 6 or Behringer products for the PC, I like keeping my rig simple: guitar>M-Audio Mobile Pre USB>soundcard>Cubase SE with both the original NI Guitar Rig and Amplitube as plugins for bass and guitar, although I'd like to check out the newer versions of both of these softwares...I just still haven't figured out the drums plugins yet...I have a razor thin level of patience for those things...

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:21 am

which drums plug-ins?

Balls On Parade · Post by **Balls On Parade** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:43 pm

Metallash wrote:which drums plug-ins?

Leaf Drums?

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:33 am

Balls On Parade wrote:
Metallash wrote:which drums plug-ins?
Leaf Drums?

dont ya know how to use it? gimme about 10 minutes ill post with screenshots in this thread.

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:07 am

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hokus pokus · Post by **hokus pokus** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:28 am

I downloaded guitar rig 2 but I have a delay when I play my guitar. Do you guys think I need a better soundcard or more RAM? And what should I get to run this program?

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:56 am

you need a better soundcard with good ASIO drivers. I would recommend Cubase to run it in.

hokus pokus · Post by **hokus pokus** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:15 pm

looking at getting a fire pod. From what I hear it has a sound card in it. I guess this would solve my problems eh?

thanks for the info-

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:49 am

yep, that firepod is fine, its has really good pre-amps too, it will also be useful for when you want to record drums because of the 8 inputs, the firepod connects via FireWire so make sure you have a FireWire port on your computer before buying it, if not you can buy FireWire ports for around $30-40 that slot into one of your PCI slots on your motherboard.

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scrotal_tug · Post by **scrotal_tug** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:35 pm

Metallash wrote:
croninburg wrote:
long4theblur wrote:How much does (decent) hardware cost to be able to record directly to your computer? Is the sound quality good?
Line 6 Pods will give you a completely professional sound and they go cheap second hand on ebay.
make sure its a Pod XT, the original Pod's are shit.

if you wanted some pretty good hardware and you dont have an amp i'd just get the Pod XT and a decent Soundblaster Soundcard and plug my guitar into the Pod, then plug the Pod into the soundcard on my PC, if you want to mic up your amp and get a pretty decent sound i would get an SM57 Microphone (approx. Â£60/$120), M-Audio Audio Buddy Pre-Amp (approx. $120) and a Soundblaster Audigy 2 Soundcard (approx. $110) and in both cases i would just steal a copy of Cubase SX from a bittorrent site, you can use your onboard soundcard if you want but it just wouldnt sound as "rich" so to speak, but it would still sound pretty decent. i use onboard sound and get pretty good results.

I would definatley agree with everything here apart from the soundcard choice.
I've had no personal experience with a soundblaster card, but aren't they kinda 'general purpose'?!
If that's the case, maybe an M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 (for the same price or less) would be far better.

Metallash · Post by **Metallash** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:49 pm

scrotal_tug wrote:
Metallash wrote:
croninburg wrote:
long4theblur wrote:How much does (decent) hardware cost to be able to record directly to your computer? Is the sound quality good?
Line 6 Pods will give you a completely professional sound and they go cheap second hand on ebay.
make sure its a Pod XT, the original Pod's are shit.

if you wanted some pretty good hardware and you dont have an amp i'd just get the Pod XT and a decent Soundblaster Soundcard and plug my guitar into the Pod, then plug the Pod into the soundcard on my PC, if you want to mic up your amp and get a pretty decent sound i would get an SM57 Microphone (approx. Â£60/$120), M-Audio Audio Buddy Pre-Amp (approx. $120) and a Soundblaster Audigy 2 Soundcard (approx. $110) and in both cases i would just steal a copy of Cubase SX from a bittorrent site, you can use your onboard soundcard if you want but it just wouldnt sound as "rich" so to speak, but it would still sound pretty decent. i use onboard sound and get pretty good results.
I would definatley agree with everything here apart from the soundcard choice.
I've had no personal experience with a soundblaster card, but aren't they kinda 'general purpose'?!
If that's the case, maybe an M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 (for the same price or less) would be far better.

to be honest i didnt even think of the 24/96 haha, but yeah Soundblasters are more towards entertainment but they will do for decent enough recordings, but go for 24/96 as first choice.