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What do you guys think of them? i was thinking of getting a spider II 210(120 watts) or 212 (150watts). Should i pay more and get the extra 30 watts?

thos amps are shitty!

why?

because they sound like shit.

I have the original spider 210 (50w) and if you take the time to dial it in, it sounds good at medium volume levels.. Its an improvement if all you have now is some sort of practice amp. I wouldnt reccomend it though. IMO a much better amp in the same class/price range would be the CRATE RFX120.. none of the smaller ones, those sound like shit.. get the 120 (if you decide to buy one anyways) It has some effects, but the tone is much better and you have more flexibility in sculpting your distortion. The best thing to do if you are looking to buying an amp is go somewhere and play though it.. Even if you think you suck (I'm not saying you do) just go and play thought it and make sure you like what you are buying.. everyones ears are a little different and the CRATE is my personal choice in that price range. If you like having great sounding clean tones.. you might consider looking into a tube amp and a good distortion pedal... I personally like amp distortion over a pedal.. but thats just me.. hope that helps.

J

Ive got the Spider II head, and honestly, it kicks ass. I really like it. I love the tones im pullin out of it, and i havent even scratched the surface.

thats my 2 cents

I'm buying a Line 6 "Uber Metal" pedal http://www.line6.com/tonecore/uberMetal.html

after reading the awesome reviews this thing got here
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Fuckall wrote:I have the original spider 210 (50w) and if you take the time to dial it in, it sounds good at medium volume levels.. Its an improvement if all you have now is some sort of practice amp. I wouldnt reccomend it though. IMO a much better amp in the same class/price range would be the CRATE RFX120.. none of the smaller ones, those sound like shit.. get the 120 (if you decide to buy one anyways) It has some effects, but the tone is much better and you have more flexibility in sculpting your distortion. The best thing to do if you are looking to buying an amp is go somewhere and play though it.. Even if you think you suck (I'm not saying you do) just go and play thought it and make sure you like what you are buying.. everyones ears are a little different and the CRATE is my personal choice in that price range. If you like having great sounding clean tones.. you might consider looking into a tube amp and a good distortion pedal... I personally like amp distortion over a pedal.. but thats just me.. hope that helps.

J

I was looking at the line 6s cause of their flexibility as I play a lot of different music from Santana to heavy stuff like throwdown, I thought it would be a good amp to get as it has a lot of different sounds but from what you said it doesn’t sound to good?
Are their any other amps you would recommend in that price range?

mbemg81 wrote:

Fuckall wrote:I have the original spider 210 (50w) and if you take the time to dial it in, it sounds good at medium volume levels.. Its an improvement if all you have now is some sort of practice amp. I wouldnt reccomend it though. IMO a much better amp in the same class/price range would be the CRATE RFX120.. none of the smaller ones, those sound like shit.. get the 120 (if you decide to buy one anyways) It has some effects, but the tone is much better and you have more flexibility in sculpting your distortion. The best thing to do if you are looking to buying an amp is go somewhere and play though it.. Even if you think you suck (I'm not saying you do) just go and play thought it and make sure you like what you are buying.. everyones ears are a little different and the CRATE is my personal choice in that price range. If you like having great sounding clean tones.. you might consider looking into a tube amp and a good distortion pedal... I personally like amp distortion over a pedal.. but thats just me.. hope that helps.

J

I was looking at the line 6s cause of their flexibility as I play a lot of different music from Santana to heavy stuff like throwdown, I thought it would be a good amp to get as it has a lot of different sounds but from what you said it doesn’t sound to good?
Are their any other amps you would recommend in that price range?

Well, its subjective.. I've got a great uncle who plays country and blues on strats, teles, and les pauls and he offered to buy it off me on the spot for the clean/twang/blues presets alone.. it is very flexible for certain things.. It is just missing the true warmth of tubes that I like.. basically IMO what it boils down to is that its a "jack of all trades, master of none" And this is the original.. I have no idea about the new ones.. they might kick ass for all I know, I havent actually played through one.

how old is your amp?

mbemg81 wrote:how old is your amp?

4-5 years old.. somewhere in there.

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Ive tried 'em, out and they sound decent. Worth your hard earned money

i love line 6. i have the spider 2 halfstack. it's definitly the best halfstack you'll get at that price. i want to save up to get a line 6 flextone head. my bro has one and he's set some nice ass tones on that thing.

Definatley a decent combo for the money. A few of my friends have/had them, and they're decent. Built like a tank too!

I especially like the cleans. The distortion can sound real nice, but can lacks definition at high volumes (especially the 'Insane' channel). Just go easy with the drive/gain.

scrotal_tug wrote:Definatley a decent combo for the money. A few of my friends have/had them, and they're decent. Built like a tank too!

I especially like the cleans. The distortion can sound real nice, but can lacks definition at high volumes (especially the 'Insane' channel). Just go easy with the drive/gain.

Do you mean the distortion gets a lot of feed back and static at high volumes?
I was hoping to get rid of that shit from my boss metal zone pedal and use the amps distortion instead.

The VOX Valvetronix line of modeling heads are far superior to the Line 6's and the Behringers...so I've decided I'm getting this in the next day or two, the AD120VTH:




picked up the foot controller for it today:




leave you're Rectos, Princetons, Twins, JCMs, DSLs, TSL's, and AC30's at home, folks, this one does it all!!!!!!!!! (AND slays any fucking Line 6 modeler head out there!!!!)

now, time to sell my rack gear, some pedals, and my Randall RH100 head!!!








I'm getting stiffie as I type this...

yeah, fuck randall heads. dimebag was the only one that could make a randall sound good.

The RH100 is a great soudning amp for the price...

Balls On Parade wrote:The VOX Valvetronix line of modeling heads are far superior to the Line 6's and the Behringers...so I've decided I'm getting this in the next day or two, the AD120VTH:




picked up the foot controller for it today:




leave you're Rectos, Princetons, Twins, JCMs, DSLs, TSL's, and AC30's at home, folks, this one does it all!!!!!!!!! (AND slays any fucking Line 6 modeler head out there!!!!)

now, time to sell my rack gear, some pedals, and my Randall RH100 head!!!








I'm getting stiffie as I type this...

The U.S highgain setting on these things fucking own, my buddy has one and you can get some pretty good Slayer-esque sounds out of it.

Balls On Parade wrote:The RH100 is a great soudning amp for the price...

BTW, I am selling mine

Balls On Parade wrote:

Balls On Parade wrote:The RH100 is a great soudning amp for the price...

BTW, I am selling mine

How much?

yeah they are pretty good for the money.

Muffin wrote:

Balls On Parade wrote:

Balls On Parade wrote:The RH100 is a great soudning amp for the price...

BTW, I am selling mine

How much?

$250 plus shipping, hardly ever used (maybe 4 times? never even gigged it), and I bought it new:

Gor-Gor wrote:Ive got the Spider II head, and honestly, it kicks ass. I really like it. I love the tones im pullin out of it, and i havent even scratched the surface.

thats my 2 cents

The head is good but the cab is a bit shitty, go for a cab with celestion v-30's makes all the difference!

can't go wrong with a Randall RH100 either though!

Balls On Parade wrote:

Muffin wrote:

Balls On Parade wrote:

Balls On Parade wrote:The RH100 is a great soudning amp for the price...

BTW, I am selling mine

How much?

$250 plus shipping, hardly ever used (maybe 4 times? never even gigged it), and I bought it new:

How long are you holding on to it before selling it? I might buy it.

PanteraRuleTheWorld wrote:

Gor-Gor wrote:Ive got the Spider II head, and honestly, it kicks ass. I really like it. I love the tones im pullin out of it, and i havent even scratched the surface.

thats my 2 cents

The head is good but the cab is a bit shitty, go for a cab with celestion v-30's makes all the difference!

can't go wrong with a Randall RH100 either though!

why the v-30s?

Gor-Gor wrote:

PanteraRuleTheWorld wrote:

Gor-Gor wrote:Ive got the Spider II head, and honestly, it kicks ass. I really like it. I love the tones im pullin out of it, and i havent even scratched the surface.

thats my 2 cents

The head is good but the cab is a bit shitty, go for a cab with celestion v-30's makes all the difference!

can't go wrong with a Randall RH100 either though!

why the v-30s?

i got the line 6 cab cos it was cheap, and there's a reason its cheap...its shit! celestion make the speakers for it but theyre cheap shitty ones made specially for line 6. not too good with bass and treble high it cant handle it. i got another cab with celestion v-30s and it just sounds so fuckin sweet! the bass and treble can be right up and they both cut through nicely, so bassy but so trebley at the same time...nice

I’ve been speaking to other guitarists and now I changed my mind I wont to get a peavey 5150 head and a Marshall quad box but the bad thing is its gonna cost me heaps. Like 3 to 4 grand. So I wont be getting that in a hurry.

Good luck getting a 5150, they don't build them anymore.

croninburg wrote:Good luck getting a 5150, they don't build them anymore.

they aren't hard to get.


and I still use my rh100, so that one that BOP is selling is WELL worth the 250!!!!

I have a near mint line6 flextone II HD head. Don't really use it much anymore, got myself an Engl Powerball. How much do you want to pay for it, if you still want one?

Th3 C0ok wrote:I have a near mint line6 flextone II HD head. Don't really use it much anymore, got myself an Engl Powerball. How much do you want to pay for it, if you still want one?

Thanks for the offer but i am saving up for that peavey now.

Right on, good head.. only thing I don't like about it is the lack of gain or distortion... it has really good lead though.

Muffin wrote:

Balls On Parade wrote:

Muffin wrote:

Balls On Parade wrote:

Balls On Parade wrote:The RH100 is a great soudning amp for the price...

BTW, I am selling mine

How much?

$250 plus shipping, hardly ever used (maybe 4 times? never even gigged it), and I bought it new:

How long are you holding on to it before selling it? I might buy it.

goes on Ebay tomorrow, dude!

i have a spider ll 212 and i think it sound pretty good for its price but i am planning to sell it to get a tube amp Randall rg50tc with is smaller but 500x better