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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:12 pm
by Jefferino
slaughtered wrote:here, you know what, even if phil had stuck around to record those 2 records with pantera, i reckon it only would have been a half effort and they wouldn't have been anything great! I'd rather they left it at the amazing records they did, than finish their career with 2 shit ones. They'd clearly gone different ways by then music wise.
And as for crushing the dream....I think he was meaning that Nathan Gale crushed the dream of there ever being a PanterA reunion. With all 4 members still alive, it could have been a possibility at some point! As Phil said...look how long it took for the original Black Sabbath to play together again.
I see what you're saying....I think musically though, RTS was awesome...Phil just was a little scatterbrained on the lyrics it seemed. So I could definately see a half assed effort on the albums remaining on their contract.
COULD'VE
SHOULD'VE
WOULD'VE
DIDN'T.
We could talk about this topic forever and it wont change the fact that Pantera will never make music again. I don't neccessarily want to scapegoat Phil too badly. I just think his "drug abuse" and him persuing (in my opinion) the biggest, overhyped, metal band of the year Superjoint Ritual, had alot to do with the demise of the band...which subsequently led to some psychopath shooting Darrell on stage.
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:58 pm
by mann see
If Phil was half the junkie you all think he is then he would be dead. Heroin additcts don't tour 8 months out of the year. the only drugs that guy has been on is weed, alcohol, and pain pills. Dime and Vince weren't innocent either. If I remember right they did a national radio tour and got interviewed on the air all over the country and all they did was talk about how bad a person Phil was. Anyways, the herion talk is tired and beat. Its like the people that can't get over the fact that Ozzy bit the head off of a bat.
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 6:38 pm
by Jefferino
mann see wrote:If Phil was half the junkie you all think he is then he would be dead. Heroin additcts don't tour 8 months out of the year. the only drugs that guy has been on is weed, alcohol, and pain pills. Dime and Vince weren't innocent either. If I remember right they did a national radio tour and got interviewed on the air all over the country and all they did was talk about how bad a person Phil was. Anyways, the herion talk is tired and beat. Its like the people that can't get over the fact that Ozzy bit the head off of a bat.
agreed, im done
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:02 pm
by Edna Bodine
mann see wrote:Ozzy bit the head off of a bat.
wait, seriously??
Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:09 pm
by DBS
Edna Bodine wrote:mann see wrote:Ozzy bit the head off of a bat.
wait, seriously??
i call

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:59 pm
by Jefferino
DBS wrote:Edna Bodine wrote:mann see wrote:Ozzy bit the head off of a bat.
wait, seriously??
i call

LOL, its true DBS, although from what I heard he didn't know it was real...
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 11:46 am
by MindsetOfAnnihilation
Jefferino wrote:DBS wrote:Edna Bodine wrote:mann see wrote:Ozzy bit the head off of a bat.
wait, seriously??
i call

LOL, its true DBS, although from what I heard he didn't know it was real...
i thought it was common knowledge that Ozzy did this... people would throw fake bats on the stage and Ozzy would bite the heads off.. one time the bat was real... but i think thats nothing compared to the time he deliberately bit the head off that dove
Re: Phil is a Piece of SHIT- Period.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 9:24 pm
by Web Of Hair
Jefferino wrote:I haven't really had a chance or a public forum to vent about this, cause I consider myself to be a diehard fan, just like all of you guys.. Read this if you want, don't if you don't, burn me at the stake, i dont give a fuck!!
I read Phil's "apology" letter on his website all the time, trying to gain some insight into this horrible situation, and it baffles me. " Some mentally disturbed individual …crushed the dream" he says....Which I agree Nathan Gale deserves to be dead, I dont think he would have made it too long in prison either way...you know what though? Phil himself crushed the dream. He's the selfish prick who made all these herion induced decsions without any regard for the fans of Pantera, his bandmates, the label, the management. He's the one who couldn't get over his own goddamned ego to write 2 more records (which is what was remaining on their contract) The only glory that dude wants to be appart of IS HIS OWN. He was truly convinced that he was the reason Pantera made it somewhere, and his entourage of asskissers just fed his ego. The only reason he persued Superjoint the way he did was because his band members accepted his lifestyle, in the way that Dime and Vinnie wouldn't., and the sad part of that, is he pulled Rex down with him. And im not sorry to say this, but Superjoint BLOWS or BLEW. Maybe Phil knew he couldn't cut the mustard with Pantera, seeing as how on the Superjoint albums he records his vocals one take at a time, its soooo annoying to listen to...AND Speaking of Rex- Where the hell is he on all of this. I know he was pretty reclusive anyway, but your High School buddy/bandmate gets shot to death ON STAGE, and he doesn't even make a press release or say something to the fans. I guess I give Phil a tiny shred of credit for that, he at least reached out and tryed to console the fans.
Do the math- its pretty simple. Dime was a martyr for Pantera breaking up, and obviously Nathan Gale related more to Phil than any of the other band members, through his lyrics, his attitude, or wouldn't have chose Dime. And this is an example as to how much this band meant to ALOT of people, and its pretty terrible that it meant THAT much to Nathan Gale.
So..... I'm guessing you'd of rather had a Terry Lee Glaze - PanterA reunion if it were posible....
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:57 pm
by lostblood
ther are alot more bands out ther that do herion than what ppl think and they go on more that 8 months. a friend of mine knowa a band from england and the lead singer is so addicted he pukes on stage and they do shows for a year and a half. think how long pantera toured befor the break up. Phill was smacked beyond beliefe.
i know it is hard to accept it when your idle is a junkie, but sometimes it goes to show that stars are not gods but human like all of us.
Re: Phil is a Piece of SHIT- Period.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:55 pm
by Jefferino
Web Of Hair wrote:Jefferino wrote:I haven't really had a chance or a public forum to vent about this, cause I consider myself to be a diehard fan, just like all of you guys.. Read this if you want, don't if you don't, burn me at the stake, i dont give a fuck!!
I read Phil's "apology" letter on his website all the time, trying to gain some insight into this horrible situation, and it baffles me. " Some mentally disturbed individual …crushed the dream" he says....Which I agree Nathan Gale deserves to be dead, I dont think he would have made it too long in prison either way...you know what though? Phil himself crushed the dream. He's the selfish prick who made all these herion induced decsions without any regard for the fans of Pantera, his bandmates, the label, the management. He's the one who couldn't get over his own goddamned ego to write 2 more records (which is what was remaining on their contract) The only glory that dude wants to be appart of IS HIS OWN. He was truly convinced that he was the reason Pantera made it somewhere, and his entourage of asskissers just fed his ego. The only reason he persued Superjoint the way he did was because his band members accepted his lifestyle, in the way that Dime and Vinnie wouldn't., and the sad part of that, is he pulled Rex down with him. And im not sorry to say this, but Superjoint BLOWS or BLEW. Maybe Phil knew he couldn't cut the mustard with Pantera, seeing as how on the Superjoint albums he records his vocals one take at a time, its soooo annoying to listen to...AND Speaking of Rex- Where the hell is he on all of this. I know he was pretty reclusive anyway, but your High School buddy/bandmate gets shot to death ON STAGE, and he doesn't even make a press release or say something to the fans. I guess I give Phil a tiny shred of credit for that, he at least reached out and tryed to console the fans.
Do the math- its pretty simple. Dime was a martyr for Pantera breaking up, and obviously Nathan Gale related more to Phil than any of the other band members, through his lyrics, his attitude, or wouldn't have chose Dime. And this is an example as to how much this band meant to ALOT of people, and its pretty terrible that it meant THAT much to Nathan Gale.
So..... I'm guessing you'd of rather had a Terry Lee Glaze - PanterA reunion if it were posible....
LMAO...um i think you missed my point.
Re: Phil is a Piece of SHIT- Period.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:04 pm
by Web Of Hair
Jefferino wrote:Web Of Hair wrote:Jefferino wrote:I haven't really had a chance or a public forum to vent about this, cause I consider myself to be a diehard fan, just like all of you guys.. Read this if you want, don't if you don't, burn me at the stake, i dont give a fuck!!
I read Phil's "apology" letter on his website all the time, trying to gain some insight into this horrible situation, and it baffles me. " Some mentally disturbed individual …crushed the dream" he says....Which I agree Nathan Gale deserves to be dead, I dont think he would have made it too long in prison either way...you know what though? Phil himself crushed the dream. He's the selfish prick who made all these herion induced decsions without any regard for the fans of Pantera, his bandmates, the label, the management. He's the one who couldn't get over his own goddamned ego to write 2 more records (which is what was remaining on their contract) The only glory that dude wants to be appart of IS HIS OWN. He was truly convinced that he was the reason Pantera made it somewhere, and his entourage of asskissers just fed his ego. The only reason he persued Superjoint the way he did was because his band members accepted his lifestyle, in the way that Dime and Vinnie wouldn't., and the sad part of that, is he pulled Rex down with him. And im not sorry to say this, but Superjoint BLOWS or BLEW. Maybe Phil knew he couldn't cut the mustard with Pantera, seeing as how on the Superjoint albums he records his vocals one take at a time, its soooo annoying to listen to...AND Speaking of Rex- Where the hell is he on all of this. I know he was pretty reclusive anyway, but your High School buddy/bandmate gets shot to death ON STAGE, and he doesn't even make a press release or say something to the fans. I guess I give Phil a tiny shred of credit for that, he at least reached out and tryed to console the fans.
Do the math- its pretty simple. Dime was a martyr for Pantera breaking up, and obviously Nathan Gale related more to Phil than any of the other band members, through his lyrics, his attitude, or wouldn't have chose Dime. And this is an example as to how much this band meant to ALOT of people, and its pretty terrible that it meant THAT much to Nathan Gale.
So..... I'm guessing you'd of rather had a Terry Lee Glaze - PanterA reunion if it were posible....
LMAO...um i think you missed my point.
was a joke....
Re: Phil is a Piece of SHIT- Period.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:52 pm
by Jefferino
Web Of Hair wrote:Jefferino wrote:Web Of Hair wrote:Jefferino wrote:I haven't really had a chance or a public forum to vent about this, cause I consider myself to be a diehard fan, just like all of you guys.. Read this if you want, don't if you don't, burn me at the stake, i dont give a fuck!!
I read Phil's "apology" letter on his website all the time, trying to gain some insight into this horrible situation, and it baffles me. " Some mentally disturbed individual …crushed the dream" he says....Which I agree Nathan Gale deserves to be dead, I dont think he would have made it too long in prison either way...you know what though? Phil himself crushed the dream. He's the selfish prick who made all these herion induced decsions without any regard for the fans of Pantera, his bandmates, the label, the management. He's the one who couldn't get over his own goddamned ego to write 2 more records (which is what was remaining on their contract) The only glory that dude wants to be appart of IS HIS OWN. He was truly convinced that he was the reason Pantera made it somewhere, and his entourage of asskissers just fed his ego. The only reason he persued Superjoint the way he did was because his band members accepted his lifestyle, in the way that Dime and Vinnie wouldn't., and the sad part of that, is he pulled Rex down with him. And im not sorry to say this, but Superjoint BLOWS or BLEW. Maybe Phil knew he couldn't cut the mustard with Pantera, seeing as how on the Superjoint albums he records his vocals one take at a time, its soooo annoying to listen to...AND Speaking of Rex- Where the hell is he on all of this. I know he was pretty reclusive anyway, but your High School buddy/bandmate gets shot to death ON STAGE, and he doesn't even make a press release or say something to the fans. I guess I give Phil a tiny shred of credit for that, he at least reached out and tryed to console the fans.
Do the math- its pretty simple. Dime was a martyr for Pantera breaking up, and obviously Nathan Gale related more to Phil than any of the other band members, through his lyrics, his attitude, or wouldn't have chose Dime. And this is an example as to how much this band meant to ALOT of people, and its pretty terrible that it meant THAT much to Nathan Gale.
So..... I'm guessing you'd of rather had a Terry Lee Glaze - PanterA reunion if it were posible....
LMAO...um i think you missed my point.
was a joke....

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 7:23 pm
by Amy
God damn you people and your finger pointing ways!

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 7:51 pm
by Wrona
Amy wrote:God damn you people and your finger pointing ways!

How are you doing today buttercup?
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:08 pm
by Amy
I'm well,and you?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:28 am
by Rose
?????
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:41 am
by Motocross_Pumpkin
The funny thing about Phil, is that in Septhember 2004 issue of Metal Hammer, Phil said:
'Dime is a fucking dick, he deserves to be beaten severely'.
Phil is one lucky man, his dream came true 4 months later.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:58 pm
by Browns Town
Motocross_Pumpkin wrote:The funny thing about Phil, is that in Septhember 2004 issue of Metal Hammer, Phil said:
'Dime is a fucking dick, he deserves to be beaten severely'.
Phil is one lucky man, his dream came true 4 months later.
Because in a time of fueding, you've never said ANYTHING bad or stupid about a friend out of anger, right? Shit, I know I have. The difference is, nobody is writing our words down and publishing them for the entire world to see.
I'll throw out a little story here, because I'm in a Mother Goose kind of mood today. The setting is my fathers house in 1991. My father had turned into a very bad alcoholic. I don't mean stop at the bar every day and have 6 beers and a few shots. I mean REAL fucking bad. I was talking to my mother on the phone from his house (they had been divorced a few years at this point) at about 4 PM when I got hom from school. She asked me what he was doing and I said "He's probably in the basement, half dead. Who cares." Seeing my father passed out during the middle of the day was no big event for me at that stage. So I went on about my way and went home. Took a nap. Got a phone call at 7 PM that same night from my aunt saying she found my pop dead, in the basement.
You think that little stupid comment to my mom hasn't haunted me for YEARS? And by saying it, did I wish him dead? No. Did I cause his death? No. I said something stupid and it just coincidently turned out badly.
There is no way on this earth that Phil truely wished Dimebag any harm. I've been really buying into the "take a walk in someone else's shoes" shit lately. He said something stupid like we all do. Show a little respect for the greatest frontman in metal history.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:03 pm
by BLAK2TH
Browns Town wrote:Motocross_Pumpkin wrote:The funny thing about Phil, is that in Septhember 2004 issue of Metal Hammer, Phil said:
'Dime is a fucking dick, he deserves to be beaten severely'.
Phil is one lucky man, his dream came true 4 months later.
Because in a time of fueding, you've never said ANYTHING bad or stupid about a friend out of anger, right? Shit, I know I have. The difference is, nobody is writing our words down and publishing them for the entire world to see.
I'll throw out a little story here, because I'm in a Mother Goose kind of mood today. The setting is my fathers house in 1991. My father had turned into a very bad alcoholic. I don't mean stop at the bar every day and have 6 beers and a few shots. I mean REAL fucking bad. I was talking to my mother on the phone from his house (they had been divorced a few years at this point) at about 4 PM when I got hom from school. She asked me what he was doing and I said "He's probably in the basement, half dead. Who cares." Seeing my father passed out during the middle of the day was no big event for me at that stage. So I went on about my way and went home. Took a nap. Got a phone call at 7 PM that same night from my aunt saying she found my pop dead, in the basement.
You think that little stupid comment to my mom hasn't haunted me for YEARS? And by saying it, did I wish him dead? No. Did I cause his death? No. I said something stupid and it just coincidently turned out badly.
There is no way on this earth that Phil truely wished Dimebag any harm. I've been really buying into the "take a walk in someone else's shoes" shit lately. He said something stupid like we all do. Show a little respect for the greatest frontman in metal history.
Fucking right man

sorry about your dad

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:30 pm
by Amy
There is no way on this earth that Phil truely wished Dimebag any harm. I've been really buying into the "take a walk in someone else's shoes" shit lately. He said something stupid like we all do. Show a little respect for the greatest frontman in metal history.
Word.
Story time was sad today.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:15 pm
by M.I.A
Browns Town wrote:Motocross_Pumpkin wrote:The funny thing about Phil, is that in Septhember 2004 issue of Metal Hammer, Phil said:
'Dime is a fucking dick, he deserves to be beaten severely'.
Phil is one lucky man, his dream came true 4 months later.
Because in a time of fueding, you've never said ANYTHING bad or stupid about a friend out of anger, right? Shit, I know I have. The difference is, nobody is writing our words down and publishing them for the entire world to see.
I'll throw out a little story here, because I'm in a Mother Goose kind of mood today. The setting is my fathers house in 1991. My father had turned into a very bad alcoholic. I don't mean stop at the bar every day and have 6 beers and a few shots. I mean REAL fucking bad. I was talking to my mother on the phone from his house (they had been divorced a few years at this point) at about 4 PM when I got hom from school. She asked me what he was doing and I said "He's probably in the basement, half dead. Who cares." Seeing my father passed out during the middle of the day was no big event for me at that stage. So I went on about my way and went home. Took a nap. Got a phone call at 7 PM that same night from my aunt saying she found my pop dead, in the basement.
You think that little stupid comment to my mom hasn't haunted me for YEARS? And by saying it, did I wish him dead? No. Did I cause his death? No. I said something stupid and it just coincidently turned out badly.
There is no way on this earth that Phil truely wished Dimebag any harm. I've been really buying into the "take a walk in someone else's shoes" shit lately. He said something stupid like we all do. Show a little respect for the greatest frontman in metal history.
WORD!

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:38 pm
by Jefferino
no one is attacking his credibility as a front man- he is and will always be the best metal vocalist ever....that doesnt make him any less of a drug addicted asshole though...

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:53 am
by Browns Town
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:15 pm
by fag
phil is on his period man from the amount of cock hes swallowed im surprised he doesbt wear flowery dress,s

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:24 pm
by Browns Town
Shut your mouth, little boy.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:31 pm
by fag
Little boy thats not what u were saying last nite but then u did have ur mouth full
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:40 pm
by fag
boohoo pantera is over fuck at least we still have true heavy weights like SIMPLE PLAN mark my words they will soon hold the coveted crown of biggest and hardest fags in hard rock and metal that pantera has been clinging too for so long Oh yeah get a grip this shit aint life i love pantera but fuck get the fuck over yourselves or go home and cry to mummy
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:41 pm
by Edna Bodine
[quote="fag"]Little boy thats not what u were saying last nite but then u did have ur mouth full[/quote
]
why you stupid little fa.....
...oh man, our usual insults are USELESS on this guy! what are we going to do??
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:51 pm
by fag

well my suggestion is go punch a wall maybe jump off a really high building i am sick of whining pussies moaning about shit they cant change man the amount of aggression or maybe hidden homosexuality showed in the pathetic banter between all of you makes me wonder whether my beloved pantera has a legion of fans that dont understand shit about what metal is about i mean shit if u get pissed off over someone calling you gay ask yourself why you are offended shit if you werent why would you care and this is all coming from the mouth of a self proclaimed asshole get over it fuck id rather enjoy panters than sit and bitch about it
BE YOURSELF BY YOURSELF STAY AWAY FROM ME
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:04 am
by Browns Town
fag wrote:
well my suggestion is go punch a wall maybe jump off a really high building i am sick of whining pussies moaning about shit they cant change man the amount of aggression or maybe hidden homosexuality showed in the pathetic banter between all of you makes me wonder
Hmmm. Now I'm wondering myself!

Thanks for helping me wonder!
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:54 am
by M.I.A
fag wrote:
well my suggestion is go punch a wall maybe jump off a really high building i am sick of whining pussies moaning about shit they cant change man the amount of aggression or maybe hidden homosexuality showed in the pathetic banter between all of you makes me wonder whether my beloved pantera has a legion of fans that dont understand shit about what metal is about i mean shit if u get pissed off over someone calling you gay ask yourself why you are offended shit if you werent why would you care and this is all coming from the mouth of a self proclaimed asshole get over it fuck id rather enjoy panters than sit and bitch about it
BE YOURSELF BY YOURSELF STAY AWAY FROM ME
man you are a fag, get the fuck off this board dick munch
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:06 pm
by Jefferino
hey fag - (appropriate name btw) I think you're in need of a good skull fucking

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:51 pm
by dead forever
i wanted a terry lee glaze reuinion

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:55 pm
by Jefferino
dead forever wrote:i wanted a terry lee glaze reuinion


Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:05 pm
by dead forever
Jefferino wrote:dead forever wrote:i wanted a terry lee glaze reuinion


im not even joking, i listen to i am the night before i go to sleep at night sometimes

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:07 pm
by Jefferino
dead forever wrote:Jefferino wrote:dead forever wrote:i wanted a terry lee glaze reuinion


im not even joking, i listen to i am the night before i go to sleep at night sometimes

oh, sorry if i insulted you then....
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:34 pm
by Klepto
Phil is the biggest piece of shit i have ever seen on earth!

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:34 pm
by goshua
Browns Town wrote:I'll throw out a little story here, because I'm in a Mother Goose kind of mood today.

your muma
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:34 pm
by fag
Re: your muma
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:48 pm
by Jefferino