Is it true that bassists hate guitarists that switch to bass

[CFH Eternal]

I always hear this, and does it bother any of the bassists here?

[Firestorm]

Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[PRJECEDNIK]

Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[Pfl?yd]

I hate guitarists that switch to bass because they usually bring the guitarist attitude of "mememememememe" with them and sound like a pile of shit on the bass. If you want to be a spotlight person onstage, stay with guitar. Other than mechanical similarities, bass and guitar are completely different.

[PABassPlayer]

I hate guitarists that switch to bass because they usually bring the guitarist attitude of "mememememememe" with them and sound like a pile of shit on the bass. If you want to be a spotlight person onstage, stay with guitar. Other than mechanical similarities, bass and guitar are completely different.

what he said.

[Kyle]

I hate guitarists that switch to bass because they usually bring the guitarist attitude of "mememememememe" with them and sound like a pile of shit on the bass. If you want to be a spotlight person onstage, stay with guitar. Other than mechanical similarities, bass and guitar are completely different.

we dont ALL have that attitude....do we?


ive filled in for a few guys before, i love playing bass. i just have dumped so much cash and time into learning guitar, theres no way id switch now.

[Pantera420]

i hate bass players that switch to guitar

[Pfl?yd]

i hate bass players that switch to guitar

I play guitar quite well, but I'm not into it as a performance instrument.

[Lager]

Bass > guitar.

[Pfl?yd]

Bass > guitar.

[Aeon]

Music is gay.

[Grimlock]

I now play guitar, but still play bass.

[warhead dime]

Bass > guitar.

I feel guitar a lot more, but that's just my preference. However, I don't view one above the other.

[PABassPlayer]

Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.

They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)

[Maelstrom]

they usually bring the guitarist attitude of "mememememememe" with them

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[wal]

Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.

They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)

how can you play like that?

[PABassPlayer]

Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.

They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)

how can you play like that?

I can't really show you on our original stuff, but a good example is the bridge in Godsmack - Bad Religion. Not saying it's a great song, but it's where I got the feel and idea for some of my original stuff.

[Pfl?yd]

Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.

They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)

how can you play like that?

I've done things of the sort where I would play a clave-style line and then keep moving the "one" back another beat while the drums kept the same time. It's not easy to keep up, but it's pretty fun to do in a jam context. Keeps everyone on their toes.

[PABassPlayer]

Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.

They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)

how can you play like that?

I've done things of the sort where I would play a clave-style line and then keep moving the "one" back another beat while the drums kept the same time. It's not easy to keep up, but it's pretty fun to do in a jam context. Keeps everyone on their toes.

you know exactly what I'm talking about.

[wal]

Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.

They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)

how can you play like that?

I can't really show you on our original stuff, but a good example is the bridge in Godsmack - Bad Religion. Not saying it's a great song, but it's where I got the feel and idea for some of my original stuff.

well, say you play 4/4 and your drummer plays 5/4 at 100bpm , you have 4 pulse when he has 5.. how can you make it work at the 2nd bar when you hit 1 and hes still on '5'?
the only thing that i know is called rhythmic displacement when you move your rhythm pattern (1) back/forward another beat like floyd said.

[Pfl?yd]

Guitar players that switch to bass often over play and don't really have the "goove". I'm not saying "all" but most I have seen.

They try to put fills in where they don't belong and over complicate even the best simplistic bass lines. They don't realize that what you don't play is as important as what you do play. A dramatic pause, a staccato walk up or playing 4:4 when the drums are going 5:4 can make things very cool. In another words they have the mechanics, but seldom have the "feel". (then again, some bass players lack this ability too)

how can you play like that?

I can't really show you on our original stuff, but a good example is the bridge in Godsmack - Bad Religion. Not saying it's a great song, but it's where I got the feel and idea for some of my original stuff.

well, say you play 4/4 and your drummer plays 5/4 at 100bpm , you have 4 pulse when he has 5.. how can you make it work at the 2nd bar when you hit 1 and hes still on '5'?
the only thing that i know is called rhythmic displacement when you move your rhythm pattern (1) back/forward another beat like floyd said.

Yeah, that's pretty much the only way it works. It's kind of circular. I do it in sparse parts though so it's almost subtle and gives the guitarist plenty of room to do things over it.

[PABassPlayer]

You hear it used in jazz quite abit, but you can apply it anywhere. It's not something that you write an entire song with, but more so a bridge or if your doing a tempo change mid song it makes a cool conversion. Like I said, the mechanics of doing it is easier said than the feel of it. Like Pfloyd said, definatly keep everyone on there toes, and you have to have a good gel with your drummer for him to keep steady time and not deviate until you both come back to 1.

[ATR v1.2]

would they meet up every sixth bar?

and thats the kinda shit don von vliet used to get his band to do. all play in different time signatures, but have all the parts carefully constructed so as to all come back in on one note and then diverge again, only to come together again, and again.

[PABassPlayer]

would they meet up every sixth bar?

and thats the kinda shit don von vliet used to get his band to do. all play in different time signatures, but have all the parts carefully constructed so as to all come back in on one note and then diverge again, only to come together again, and again.

Thats true, assuming there is 6 bars to the riff. Sometimes coming out of that time signature is harder than going into it. Although I'm not a huge fan, Meshuggah are masters at it. Any band that can have 3 and 4 time signatures going at once and still come back to one spot are incredible.

[slay]

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