Rack systems
Rack systems
So, since I'm going to be buying a new rig here in the next month or so due to mine becoming increasingly ill-tempered, I was thinking of putting together a rack system. I know next to nothing about these things other than the fact the components are all separate. Anyone here have a rack system? Anyone have a BASS rack system? What's a good power amp and preamp?
These are the cabs I'm thinking of getting for my rig:
Avatar 2x10 with neodymium speakers:
and an Avatar 2x12 with neos:
And I'm reeeeeaally tempted to buy one of these come tax time:
These are the cabs I'm thinking of getting for my rig:
Avatar 2x10 with neodymium speakers:
and an Avatar 2x12 with neos:
And I'm reeeeeaally tempted to buy one of these come tax time:
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
You apparently haven't seen some of my outfits!Motorhead wrote:All I know is that color is horrific! Shit you'd be on stage and no one would notice you, just your amp!
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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Well, part of the idea is that different bands can use different configurations. Ultimately I'd end up getting one power amp and maybe a couple of preamps. Some gigs don't require both cabs, some do, and so on and so forth. It'd be nice to just change a couple of cords and be set up for whatever gig I'm doing with whatever band I'm playing with instead of doing all the swapping and shit I do now.croninburg wrote:Racks look cool, but I'm happy enough with a combo and pedals. I've heard that empty rack slots are dangerously GAS inducing, so that might be something to bear in mind!
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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I use a rack, I have a 6 space loaded with a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0, Korg DTR1000 tuner, Furman power conditioner (with rack lights) and a Shure wireless. It is a deep case and components are not, so everything plugs into the Furman and I only need 1 outlet for my entire rig. I can also store all of my cables and (3 pedal) board in the back. If I get a chance I'll snap a pic of it.Pfl?yd wrote:DBS wrote:no tits? fuck.
PFloyd, if you get a chance, check out the Genz Benz Shuttle series heads and Cabs....amazing stuff!
edit: Bongo bass....sound/play great, look
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
I've looked into the Shuttle amps but the only thing I found lacking was power handling. Of course, if I got a Shuttle, putting it in a rack defeats the purpose for me. It'd be great for smaller gigs, especially with that little 1x12 but when I play in a six-piece band and need to actually be heard, I need something that's going to pulverize kidney stones.PABassPlayer wrote:I use a rack, I have a 6 space loaded with a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0, Korg DTR1000 tuner, Furman power conditioner (with rack lights) and a Shure wireless. It is a deep case and components are not, so everything plugs into the Furman and I only need 1 outlet for my entire rig. I can also store all of my cables and (3 pedal) board in the back. If I get a chance I'll snap a pic of it.Pfl?yd wrote:DBS wrote:no tits? fuck.
PFloyd, if you get a chance, check out the Genz Benz Shuttle series heads and Cabs....amazing stuff!
edit: Bongo bass....sound/play great, look
And the Bongo's look is perfect for me. Nothing epitomizes my sound more than a bass that looks like a toilet seat!
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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The shuttle 6.0 with (2) 4 ohm cabs is 600 watts. It has everything my swr workingpro 700 had and has better tone and clarity. I bought 2 Genz small cabs for little gigs and practice, then I just slide it into my rack and plug into my SWR 1x15 and 4x10 cabs for bigger shows. You gotta plug into one to really appreciate it. I had my doubts untill I plugged in.Pfl?yd wrote:I've looked into the Shuttle amps but the only thing I found lacking was power handling. Of course, if I got a Shuttle, putting it in a rack defeats the purpose for me. It'd be great for smaller gigs, especially with that little 1x12 but when I play in a six-piece band and need to actually be heard, I need something that's going to pulverize kidney stones.PABassPlayer wrote:I use a rack, I have a 6 space loaded with a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0, Korg DTR1000 tuner, Furman power conditioner (with rack lights) and a Shure wireless. It is a deep case and components are not, so everything plugs into the Furman and I only need 1 outlet for my entire rig. I can also store all of my cables and (3 pedal) board in the back. If I get a chance I'll snap a pic of it.Pfl?yd wrote:DBS wrote:no tits? fuck.
PFloyd, if you get a chance, check out the Genz Benz Shuttle series heads and Cabs....amazing stuff!
edit: Bongo bass....sound/play great, look
And the Bongo's look is perfect for me. Nothing epitomizes my sound more than a bass that looks like a toilet seat!
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
Yeah, they sound and play awesome and the look is icing on the cake.slay wrote:
what is that a music man? im not likeing it, but im sure it plays nice.
My current basses are a little too conservative, I need something a little more. . . interesting.
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
My buddy has a 5 string musicman, it sounds acePfl?yd wrote:Yeah, they sound and play awesome and the look is icing on the cake.slay wrote:
what is that a music man? im not likeing it, but im sure it plays nice.
My current basses are a little too conservative, I need something a little more. . . interesting.
slay wrote:that bass reminds me of a 57 chevy with its huge body and curves.
when I think of a music man bass I think of this style which looks great.
blaaaaaand.
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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I'd like that, but it just isn't PFloyd's style.slay wrote:that bass reminds me of a 57 chevy with its huge body and curves.
when I think of a music man bass I think of this style which looks great.
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my friend has one and it was too bland for me as well. even in the sound department. but then again i'm spoiled with by brother's warwick 5 string thumb n.t.slay wrote:that bass reminds me of a 57 chevy with its huge body and curves.
when I think of a music man bass I think of this style which looks great.
[quote="Brandon"] there are weirdos on the net. [/quote]
the music man is tight, my bass player has the ampeg SVT rack unit with the power conditioners and other effects. but when he really wants to kill, he lugs out his original ampeg SVT with all its 400 watts of tube goodness. all this through two 15" black widows
i heard the Genz are as light as a phone book, is this true?
i heard the Genz are as light as a phone book, is this true?
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The head is 3.75 lbs, the single cab is 11 lbs.Tweel wrote:
i heard the Genz are as light as a phone book, is this true?
Great for old geezers like me.
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
I'm no bass player, but the bass player I uses Genz Benz and I think they sound really good.PABassPlayer wrote:I use a rack, I have a 6 space loaded with a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0, Korg DTR1000 tuner, Furman power conditioner (with rack lights) and a Shure wireless. It is a deep case and components are not, so everything plugs into the Furman and I only need 1 outlet for my entire rig. I can also store all of my cables and (3 pedal) board in the back. If I get a chance I'll snap a pic of it.Pfl?yd wrote:DBS wrote:no tits? fuck.
PFloyd, if you get a chance, check out the Genz Benz Shuttle series heads and Cabs....amazing stuff!
edit: Bongo bass....sound/play great, look
I play bass and i have a rack system, and it depends in how much you want to spend, my rack consists on a Gallien krueger 1001rb, KORG dtr 2000 tuner, power conditioner, and a BBE maxcom compressor.
If you want to go the way of power amp and preamp, check on carvin power amps, very reliable and made in usa, also check older peaveys and crowns.
as far as preamps, if your budget is big check the Demeter rack preamps, those things are nice, check also BBE bass preamps, a lot cheaper and very nice, and last but not least Check the sansamp Rack preamp.
You really need a power conditioner, they go for about $80 and they keep clean and protected power going to your rig.
Putting a rig together is a matter of taste and what are your needs, and be prepared to try and fail..
Check also the DBX 116 compressor, very nice for bass but expensive
If you want to go the way of power amp and preamp, check on carvin power amps, very reliable and made in usa, also check older peaveys and crowns.
as far as preamps, if your budget is big check the Demeter rack preamps, those things are nice, check also BBE bass preamps, a lot cheaper and very nice, and last but not least Check the sansamp Rack preamp.
You really need a power conditioner, they go for about $80 and they keep clean and protected power going to your rig.
Putting a rig together is a matter of taste and what are your needs, and be prepared to try and fail..
Check also the DBX 116 compressor, very nice for bass but expensive
Okay, I ordered those cabs and a Carvin DM1500, got a rack, a power conditioner, and a rack tuner. All I need is the preamp. I'm leaning toward something snappy and modern, something growly but has a good slap tone for the times when I'm doing that.
PBB please!
PBB please!
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
I have a friend who plays bass for a living. He just bought something from Mark Bass recently after his Gallien/Krueger head took a shit on him and he swears by this thing. I hold this guy's opinion in high esteem and since he gigs constantly he doesn't settle for anything less than quality stuff (he spent an absolutely ludicrous amount of money, I think around 5k, to have some luthier make a C-extension on his double bass).
I don't play bass so I don't know, but if you haven't checked them out I would.
I don't play bass so I don't know, but if you haven't checked them out I would.
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sansamp....there is no other.Pfl?yd wrote:Okay, I ordered those cabs and a Carvin DM1500, got a rack, a power conditioner, and a rack tuner. All I need is the preamp. I'm leaning toward something snappy and modern, something growly but has a good slap tone for the times when I'm doing that.
PBB please!
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
I looked at some of the MarkBass stuff actually but can't find any of it around here to even try. The budget I put together was $2,000 for everything and any MarkBass stuff would have put me over that.Kellan wrote:I have a friend who plays bass for a living. He just bought something from Mark Bass recently after his Gallien/Krueger head took a shit on him and he swears by this thing. I hold this guy's opinion in high esteem and since he gigs constantly he doesn't settle for anything less than quality stuff (he spent an absolutely ludicrous amount of money, I think around 5k, to have some luthier make a C-extension on his double bass).
I don't play bass so I don't know, but if you haven't checked them out I would.
I haven't tried their stuff, but I hear this time and again. Any particular model you'd recommend?PABassPlayer wrote:
sansamp....there is no other.
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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Your will find better prices than GC, but this link has a good description and several pics.Pfl?yd wrote:I looked at some of the MarkBass stuff actually but can't find any of it around here to even try. The budget I put together was $2,000 for everything and any MarkBass stuff would have put me over that.Kellan wrote:I have a friend who plays bass for a living. He just bought something from Mark Bass recently after his Gallien/Krueger head took a shit on him and he swears by this thing. I hold this guy's opinion in high esteem and since he gigs constantly he doesn't settle for anything less than quality stuff (he spent an absolutely ludicrous amount of money, I think around 5k, to have some luthier make a C-extension on his double bass).
I don't play bass so I don't know, but if you haven't checked them out I would.
I haven't tried their stuff, but I hear this time and again. Any particular model you'd recommend?PABassPlayer wrote:
sansamp....there is no other.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tech-21-San ... 1145283.gc
The new design ($$$$)
http://www.tech21nyc.com/psa_1_1.html
A sound bite of the PSA 1.1
http://www.tech21nyc.com/sounds/psa_sounds/PSABss-S.mp3
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
PapaBass, check this thing out. I wants it!
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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I have to say that looks absolutely awesome...but a $1500.00 price tag!Pfl?yd wrote:PapaBass, check this thing out. I wants it!
Yikes!
[b]"Psycho Gangster"
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
And why exactly would I change my name to "Schmeagle"?[/b]
[b]"Bukkake Tsunami". My two negro cats are fighting, the one missing a leg is winning.[/b]
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That's a lot of money to shape an inaudible tone.PABassPlayer wrote:I have to say that looks absolutely awesome...but a $1500.00 price tag!Pfl?yd wrote:PapaBass, check this thing out. I wants it!
Yikes!
JesseJames wrote:That's a lot of money to shape an inaudible tone.PABassPlayer wrote:I have to say that looks absolutely awesome...but a $1500.00 price tag!Pfl?yd wrote:PapaBass, check this thing out. I wants it!
Yikes!
. . . well, I wouldn't even bother plugging in if I played metal.
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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The bass player in Efflux has mimed when we've played new songs beforePfl?yd wrote:JesseJames wrote:That's a lot of money to shape an inaudible tone.PABassPlayer wrote:I have to say that looks absolutely awesome...but a $1500.00 price tag!Pfl?yd wrote:PapaBass, check this thing out. I wants it!
Yikes!
. . . well, I wouldn't even bother plugging in if I played metal.
When you play electronic-prog-funk freakouts, the bass is generally the most prominent instrument.JesseJames wrote:I wouldn't bother plugging in if I played bass. Of course, as bad as I am at guitar, I shouldn't bother plugging that in either.
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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I'm sure the whole 3 people in the crowd appreciate it too.Pfl?yd wrote:When you play electronic-prog-funk freakouts, the bass is generally the most prominent instrument.JesseJames wrote:I wouldn't bother plugging in if I played bass. Of course, as bad as I am at guitar, I shouldn't bother plugging that in either.
ha, that shit would even be hard to mime correctly.croninburg wrote:The bass player in Efflux has mimed when we've played new songs beforePfl?yd wrote:JesseJames wrote:That's a lot of money to shape an inaudible tone.PABassPlayer wrote:I have to say that looks absolutely awesome...but a $1500.00 price tag!Pfl?yd wrote:PapaBass, check this thing out. I wants it!
Yikes!
. . . well, I wouldn't even bother plugging in if I played metal.
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
JesseJames wrote:I'm sure the whole 3 people in the crowd appreciate it too.Pfl?yd wrote:When you play electronic-prog-funk freakouts, the bass is generally the most prominent instrument.JesseJames wrote:I wouldn't bother plugging in if I played bass. Of course, as bad as I am at guitar, I shouldn't bother plugging that in either.
C'mon now, the opening band generally has more than that in it. And don't forget the bartender.
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
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I was including the bartender and the sound guy in that 3.Pfl?yd wrote:JesseJames wrote:I'm sure the whole 3 people in the crowd appreciate it too.Pfl?yd wrote:When you play electronic-prog-funk freakouts, the bass is generally the most prominent instrument.JesseJames wrote:I wouldn't bother plugging in if I played bass. Of course, as bad as I am at guitar, I shouldn't bother plugging that in either.
C'mon now, the opening band generally has more than that in it. And don't forget the bartender.
A wonderful example of tons of instruments playing at once and the bass guitar right there in your face where it belongs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLc2Jx58aIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLc2Jx58aIU
Izzy: do you realize how broad "environmental science" is?
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war
Izzy: it's like going to school for history
Izzy: well, more useful than that
Izzy: but an expert on the civil war won't know jackshit on uhh
Izzy: something that isnt the civil war