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When a song is proceeding along, the instruments all change with the feel of the song, but the vocals remain the same. It makes the vocals sound slightly different to be sung on the "peak" of the song as they were in the intro. The only examples I have are of radio rock bands but I've noticed a couple songs that this happen in.

Pfloyd? Halp?
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it would be cool if you provided a real example instead of assuming we'll do all the work. Fuck you
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yea you didn't really explain it well. do you mean dynamics? rhythm/notes of the vocals? it might be some sort of sequencing but you have to give an example
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I noticed it the other day when I heard Snuff by Slipknot. The vocals are sung essentially the same the entire way through, while the guitars build and finally come to the peak of the feel.
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I believe you are talking about a crescendo.
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A crescendo is just when an instrument (or vocal) gets louder, which presumably happens in that slipknot song, but I think long4 is talking specifically about maintaining the same vocal throughout whilst the song gets louder and as far as I know there's no name for that.. apart from what Ernie said.
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Yeah. Not particularly dealing with the volume of the vocals or insturments, just the build-up and feel. The guitars and song starts out slow and acoustic, and by the end its rocking and whatnot, while the vocals are sung pretty much the same. I could give a Linkin Park example as well but we. won't. go. there. :oops:
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It's just the way the song was mixed. Maybe the vocal track had a compressor so when the instruments got louder, the vocals stayed the same.
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BaptizedBurning wrote:It's just the way the song was mixed. Maybe the vocal track had a compressor so when the instruments got louder, the vocals stayed the same.
It's not the volume levels I'm talking about, at all.
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sounds like harmonizing to me
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maybe some kind of contrasting technique
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Hailblaze wrote:sounds like harmonizing to me
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Just listen to the song. The vocal inflection remains essentially the same throughout the song, while the guitars go from soft, acoustic, and mellow to distorted and rocking towards the end. Normally in songs, the vocals will change to match the mood and feel of the song, but in this one it doesn't, yet they sound different because of the background they're set upon. I'm not talking volume or pitch or anything.

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Its more a use of contrast then any other term I can think of. I was dead wrong by saying harmonizing.
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Hailblaze wrote:Its more a use of contrast then any other term I can think of. I was dead wrong by saying harmonizing.
That makes more sense. :tup:
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i get what your saying now, long4, and no there is no theory term for it.
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Acid Flashbakc wrote:i get what your saying now, long4, and no there is no theory term for it.
There's a theory term for a hot fart, surely there's one for this. :?
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hey guys is there a term for when in a song the guitar goes like "chugga chugga dun dun dunn dunn duuuuuunnnnn DUN! pew pew pew pewwwwwWWWWWwammywammywammy" and the vocals are going "oh yeahhh! OH yea-heaahhhh yeah yeah yeah yasseah!"?
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It's a theory called "stop listening to Slipknot you asshole".
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I studied musical theory for many years (I'm classically trained in piano) and I agree that "contrast" seems to be the best term to describe this.
On the written page, the dynamic instruction would appear for the music to crescendo (with hairpins) below the staff. Vocal instruction (as you probably know) appears above the staff.

If in the piece you cited one particular instrument, the guitar, for example, is the instrument increasing in volume, that is referred to as "in rilievo".

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Examples would def help here...
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nunosfr4 wrote:Examples would def help here...
He already named what song, dickhead.
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