You aren't a real Pantera fan unless you've seen them live.

TerryToughCunt · Post by **TerryToughCunt** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:56 pm

To those of you who were too young to see them back in the day, fuck you, you're not a real fan. You're just a worthless Johnny-come-lately fan boy. Your age is no excuse to not have seen them. The only real Pantera fans are the ones who have seen them live, in the flesh. So if you're some 15 year old kid from some country never played in, then fuck you.

cURTkOBAIN · Post by **cURTkOBAIN** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:52 pm

Tampora is a great live band. All hail.

HoustonKJ · Post by **HoustonKJ** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:09 pm

TerryToughCunt wrote:To those of you who were too young to see them back in the day, fuck you, you're not a real fan. You're just a worthless Johnny-come-lately fan boy. Your age is no excuse to not have seen them. The only real Pantera fans are the ones who have seen them live, in the flesh. So if you're some 15 year old kid from some country never played in, then fuck you.

So when did you see them live?

Crow · Post by **Crow** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:37 am

o'doyle rules

charlie · Post by **charlie** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:22 am

I had tickets. Fucking Osama ruined it though

HoustonKJ · Post by **HoustonKJ** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:36 pm

charlie wrote:I had tickets. Fucking Osama ruined it though

That really sucks.

Edna Bodine · Post by **Edna Bodine** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:41 pm

HoustonKJ wrote:this thread really sucks.

Bukkake Tsunami · Post by **Bukkake Tsunami** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:17 pm

Edna Bodine wrote:
HoustonKJ wrote:this thread really sucks with out bacon...

HoustonKJ · Post by **HoustonKJ** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:09 am

mo0sE · Post by **mo0sE** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:27 am

me and my buddy phil were the only ones in our group who had seated tickets, so the others went in downstairs, gave one guy 2 of their tickets, he came out and gave us the standing tickets, i got seriously destroyed in the pit, good times

GoddamnElectric · Post by **GoddamnElectric** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:12 am

Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.

summers_eve · Post by **summers_eve** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:21 pm

GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.

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Pftttt.

Lager · Post by **Lager** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:40 pm

GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.

Most shows are over 14's so I can understand why you pretend not to like them

Crow · Post by **Crow** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:43 am

GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO. I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that. Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.

your an absolute fucking disgrace to mankind

GoddamnElectric · Post by **GoddamnElectric** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:15 pm

Lager wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
Most shows are over 14's so I can understand why you pretend not to like them

What the fuck does "over 14's" mean? Over 14 feet? If it's an age thing. I'm 20, and I never get stopped when I go to bar shows that are 21+.

Live shows are sloppy, the acoustics are always inferior to a studio, and they're just running through the real version in a less-focused way with a "yeah get the fuck up people!" thrown in before the last chorus. If live performance was really that great, bands wouldn't spend a year working on an album. They'd just hook up the mobile and run through the tracks at a bar, all in a row, and they'd have the album done in 60 minutes. 80 at the longest, unless it's a double album.

Bands make their albums good. Then they just sludge through their hits, usually drunk, at shows pretending that it's something special when really it's the exact same setlist and jams that they did in every other city.

vulgarstrength · Post by **vulgarstrength** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:29 pm

GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.

good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music

GoddamnElectric · Post by **GoddamnElectric** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:48 pm

vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music

LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.

summers_eve · Post by **summers_eve** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:22 pm

GoddamnElectric wrote:
vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music
LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.

You need to be banned, or at least tied up naked in front of the entire PBB and egged by everyone.

Edna Bodine · Post by **Edna Bodine** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:22 pm

i just don't know where to start with this guy.

GoddamnElectric · Post by **GoddamnElectric** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:42 pm

summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music
LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.
You need to be banned, or at least tied up naked in front of the entire PBB and egged by everyone.

You're just powerlessly tied to silly emotions, whereas I actually use logic. A live show is nothing special. If you really care that much about live shows, then do you go see live bands more often than you listen to CDs? Or., on the contrary.. do you listen to CDs on the way to the show? If I want adrenaline and/or to stand around with a bunch of drunk people, I have other sources for that. When it comes to MUSIC, I care about the music, and thus I don't consider live shows to be essential. They can be great fun, and occasionally even great music. But the CD is still the final product.

summers_eve · Post by **summers_eve** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:05 pm

GoddamnElectric wrote:
summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music
LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.
You need to be banned, or at least tied up naked in front of the entire PBB and egged by everyone.
You're just powerlessly tied to silly emotions, whereas I actually use logic. A live show is nothing special. If you really care that much about live shows, then do you go see live bands more often than you listen to CDs? Or., on the contrary.. do you listen to CDs on the way to the show? If I want adrenaline and/or to stand around with a bunch of drunk people, I have other sources for that. When it comes to MUSIC, I care about the music, and thus I don't consider live shows to be essential. They can be great fun, and occasionally even great music. But the CD is still the final product.

Your logic makes no sense to anyone but you. How 'bout we put it to a vote.

GoddamnElectric · Post by **GoddamnElectric** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:20 pm

summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music
LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.
You need to be banned, or at least tied up naked in front of the entire PBB and egged by everyone.
You're just powerlessly tied to silly emotions, whereas I actually use logic. A live show is nothing special. If you really care that much about live shows, then do you go see live bands more often than you listen to CDs? Or., on the contrary.. do you listen to CDs on the way to the show? If I want adrenaline and/or to stand around with a bunch of drunk people, I have other sources for that. When it comes to MUSIC, I care about the music, and thus I don't consider live shows to be essential. They can be great fun, and occasionally even great music. But the CD is still the final product.
Your logic makes no sense to anyone but you. How 'bout we put it to a vote.

Well, you see, the flaw of this is that you guys aren't going on logic, you're just stuck on "wowie live shows r teh hawt." So it'd be a moot point to have a vote.

I'm open to opinions, man. I'm not saying live shows are worthless. 'Twas just countering the trumpd up notion that a true fan sees a live show. If ya'll wanna try and defend live shows, go for it. But it's gonna take more than "Durp, yer teh fag!111" Even if my logic is batshit insane, it still beats out your guys' "logic" by virtue of me having said anything at all.

walking_ash · Post by **walking_ash** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:06 pm

Gotta love them buzzwords, makes even the dumbest fucks feel smart. Next week I wanna see you people over use the word onomatopoeia. Get crack-a-lackin'.

Amy · Post by **Amy** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:24 pm

GoddamnElectric wrote:
You're just powerlessly tied to silly emotions, whereas I actually use logic. A live show is nothing special. If you really care that much about live shows, then do you go see live bands more often than you listen to CDs?

'Cause it would be logical to never work and go to live shows all day every day.

Jackass.

hippy · Post by **hippy** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:49 pm

live concerts is what makes or breaks a band for me, you don't sound like the cd? you're fucking garbage

Phantom Green · Post by **Phantom Green** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:42 pm

GoddamnElectric wrote:
summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music
LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.
You need to be banned, or at least tied up naked in front of the entire PBB and egged by everyone.
You're just powerlessly tied to silly emotions, whereas I actually use logic. A live show is nothing special. If you really care that much about live shows, then do you go see live bands more often than you listen to CDs? Or., on the contrary.. do you listen to CDs on the way to the show? If I want adrenaline and/or to stand around with a bunch of drunk people, I have other sources for that. When it comes to MUSIC, I care about the music, and thus I don't consider live shows to be essential. They can be great fun, and occasionally even great music. But the CD is still the final product.
Your logic makes no sense to anyone but you. How 'bout we put it to a vote.
Well, you see, the flaw of this is that you guys aren't going on logic, you're just stuck on "wowie live shows r teh hawt." So it'd be a moot point to have a vote.

I'm open to opinions, man. I'm not saying live shows are worthless. 'Twas just countering the trumpd up notion that a true fan sees a live show. If ya'll wanna try and defend live shows, go for it. But it's gonna take more than "Durp, yer teh fag!111" Even if my logic is batshit insane, it still beats out your guys' "logic" by virtue of me having said anything at all.

Live shows are what make a band, period. You don't get famous without touring, and your live playing is what enables you to have enough fans to make gold records. Now shut the fuck up.

rattlehead · Post by **rattlehead** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:26 pm

never seen pantera live

metaljess · Post by **metaljess** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:54 pm

summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music
LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.
You need to be banned, or at least tied up naked in front of the entire PBB and egged by everyone.

That'd be a waste of perfectly good eggs though!

IFryKids · Post by **IFryKids** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:07 pm

metaljess wrote:
summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music
LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.
You need to be banned, or at least tied up naked in front of the entire PBB and egged by everyone.
That'd be a waste of perfectly good eggs though!

We'll just use yours then!!!!

metaljess · Post by **metaljess** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:12 pm

Still would be a waste.

GoddamnElectric · Post by **GoddamnElectric** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:15 pm

Thanks so much to the peeps who decided to say anything with any content. You rock!

hippy wrote:live concerts is what makes or breaks a band for me, you don't sound like the cd? you're fucking garbage

Fair enough, man. I don't personally agree but I can 100% dig what you're saying.

Amy wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
You're just powerlessly tied to silly emotions, whereas I actually use logic. A live show is nothing special. If you really care that much about live shows, then do you go see live bands more often than you listen to CDs?

'Cause it would be logical to never work and go to live shows all day every day.

Jackass.

Fair enough, b. But if you could, would you? If every time you could listen to a CD, you had the choice of seeing a live show instead, would you?

walking_ash wrote:Gotta love them buzzwords, makes even the dumbest fucks feel smart. Next week I wanna see you people over use the word onomatopoeia. Get crack-a-lackin'.

I'm pretty sure the only thing anyone on Panterachat has ever thrown at me is an ad hominem attack. That or "buzzwords" like fag and dipshit. I never believed in stereotypes before, but the guys who truly hate me do seem incapable of having a discussion.

Phantom Green wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
summers_eve wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:
vulgarstrength wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Live music pretty much fucking sucks IMO.

I mean even my favorite live albums of all-time, I listen to them like... what, once a year? If even that.

Going to see a show now and then can be fun for the excitement, but in general the studio albums are the true great works and being a true fan of a band through seeing them live is basically like being a true fan of a band through buying a lighter with their logo on it.
good god what a fucking worthless faggot, you obviously hate music
LOL. I like to listen to the real final product instead of a heartless carnival run-through. Most artists stop caring about a song after they've done it a few hundred times.
You need to be banned, or at least tied up naked in front of the entire PBB and egged by everyone.
You're just powerlessly tied to silly emotions, whereas I actually use logic. A live show is nothing special. If you really care that much about live shows, then do you go see live bands more often than you listen to CDs? Or., on the contrary.. do you listen to CDs on the way to the show? If I want adrenaline and/or to stand around with a bunch of drunk people, I have other sources for that. When it comes to MUSIC, I care about the music, and thus I don't consider live shows to be essential. They can be great fun, and occasionally even great music. But the CD is still the final product.
Your logic makes no sense to anyone but you. How 'bout we put it to a vote.
Well, you see, the flaw of this is that you guys aren't going on logic, you're just stuck on "wowie live shows r teh hawt." So it'd be a moot point to have a vote.

I'm open to opinions, man. I'm not saying live shows are worthless. 'Twas just countering the trumpd up notion that a true fan sees a live show. If ya'll wanna try and defend live shows, go for it. But it's gonna take more than "Durp, yer teh fag!111" Even if my logic is batshit insane, it still beats out your guys' "logic" by virtue of me having said anything at all.

Live shows are what make a band, period. You don't get famous without touring, and your live playing is what enables you to have enough fans to make gold records. Now shut the fuck up.

And popularity is somehow important now? You don't need to be popular to be a good band, so it would seem to me that playing live would only be essential for bands who are dedicated to making money. There are a lot of black metal bands that have never done a single live show, like Burzum. There are also countless bands who don't or can't do live shows anymore, like The Doors, Neutral Milk Hotel, Coltrane etc., and they are still massively popular. Granted, playing live may have been essential in their becoming famous in the first place, I don't deny that. But it does say to me that you don't have to keep doing live shows to still be considered great and to still reach countless people. Live shows only reach a handful of people each night. A CD can reach a million people at the same time, almost anywhere and in almost any conditions.

peace & love

summers_eve · Post by **summers_eve** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:57 am

Still convinced you're 14 years old.

IFryKids · Post by **IFryKids** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:43 am

metaljess wrote:Still would be a waste.

If you have more babies we'll just throw those instead.

metaljess · Post by **metaljess** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:25 pm

Sounds like a plan.

GoddamnElectric · Post by **GoddamnElectric** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:32 am

summers_eve wrote:Still convinced you're 14 years old.

Indeed, 'cause all the older people you know are retards? Apparently, nobody over 14 wastes time with actually thinking because they're too stupid to get their mind off of the rat race for a minute.

TerryToughCunt · Post by **TerryToughCunt** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:21 am

GoddamnElectric wrote:Well, you see, the flaw of this is that you guys aren't going on logic, you're just stuck on "wowie live shows r teh hawt." So it'd be a moot point to have a vote.

I'm open to opinions, man. I'm not saying live shows are worthless. 'Twas just countering the trumpd up notion that a true fan sees a live show. If ya'll wanna try and defend live shows, go for it. But it's gonna take more than "Durp, yer teh fag!111" Even if my logic is batshit insane, it still beats out your guys' "logic" by virtue of me having said anything at all.

Let's see how good your logic works after I pulverize your fucking head.

Edna Bodine · Post by **Edna Bodine** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:54 am

TerryToughCunt wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Well, you see, the flaw of this is that you guys aren't going on logic, you're just stuck on "wowie live shows r teh hawt." So it'd be a moot point to have a vote.

I'm open to opinions, man. I'm not saying live shows are worthless. 'Twas just countering the trumpd up notion that a true fan sees a live show. If ya'll wanna try and defend live shows, go for it. But it's gonna take more than "Durp, yer teh fag!111" Even if my logic is batshit insane, it still beats out your guys' "logic" by virtue of me having said anything at all.

Let's see how good your logic works after I pulverize your fucking head.

Edna Bodine · Post by **Edna Bodine** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:54 am

TerryToughCunt wrote:
GoddamnElectric wrote:Well, you see, the flaw of this is that you guys aren't going on logic, you're just stuck on "wowie live shows r teh hawt." So it'd be a moot point to have a vote.

I'm open to opinions, man. I'm not saying live shows are worthless. 'Twas just countering the trumpd up notion that a true fan sees a live show. If ya'll wanna try and defend live shows, go for it. But it's gonna take more than "Durp, yer teh fag!111" Even if my logic is batshit insane, it still beats out your guys' "logic" by virtue of me having said anything at all.

Let's see how good your logic works after I pulverize your fucking head.

GoddamnElectric · Post by **GoddamnElectric** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:30 pm

K, I'm game.

megavic77 · Post by **megavic77** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:15 am

9 times

You aren't a real Pantera fan unless you've seen them live.

You aren't a real Pantera fan unless you've seen them live.

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